Cheney is speaking at Brigham Young University's commencement tomorrow. There goes my traffic patterns. There has actually been significant protest to him speaking, to the point that the dissidents have organized and raised the funding to have their own commencement.

When you've lost Brigham Young University, training school of the some most conservative people in the most conservative state, then you should realize there's something wrong.

After all, as Laura Bush said on the Today Show this morning, no one has suffered over Iraq more than her and W. No one.

OMG, seriously?

OMG, seriously?

Yep. Apparently she meant psychologically, to the deaths of servicemen and women....

Here's a post with the clip.

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The site is obviously biased, but the clip is just the clip.

To be semi-fair and give context (which is in the clip), Curry asked, "Do you know the American people are suffering -- watching?" It's still cringe-worthy, but it's not like she was making that assertion out of thin air. I mean, I'm a little embarrassed (as an American person) to be described as "suffering" by watching a war. Am I horrified by it? Yes. I'm not suffering in any way. The people who've lost their loved ones, and those living through it in Iraq (on any side) are the ones suffering.

I feel like we're being unfair. After all, as Laura Bush said on the Today Show this morning, no one has suffered over Iraq more than her and W. No one.

I was coming here to say "Did she actually say this", but I see from Cindy's post that she did. Because I have a a co-worker whose son's head was *split open* up the back by a bomb. Laura has suffered more than them? I gave birth to a baby without my husband (among a million other things that year)...pretty minor in the scheme of things, but has Laura suffered through that?

To be semi-fair and give context (which is in the clip), Curry asked, "Do you know the American people are suffering -- watching?" It's still cringe-worthy, but it's not like she was making that assertion out of thin air. I mean, I'm a little embarrassed (as an American person) to be described as "suffering" by watching a war. Am I horrified by it? Yes. I'm not suffering in any way. The people who've lost their loved ones, and those living through it in Iraq (on any side) are the ones suffering.

yeah, I think that the accusation can be taken out of context. What she seems to be saying is "[of the people just watching], no one suffers more than the President", but they are JUST WATCHING.

OK, that seems slightly more fair. Sure, the Bushes are "suffering" more than I am, but not nearly as much as the 20 year old wife going through extensive rehab with her brain-injured husband. For example.

Are they really the sufferingest of the spectators, though?

Love the stocking suggestions, and I will happily wear short skirts if they cover the ass.

(Please tell me I'm not the only one on the board who saw Idiocracy and spent a good part of the movie whimpering at how much their government resembled our own?)

Actually, having just finished reading Shards of Honor, which was written in -- was it 1986? -- I was spooked by how prescient it seemed w/r/t the entire government being corrupt evil sodomizers.

I just wish we had Aral Vorkosigan to take them all out.

no one has suffered over Iraq more than her and W. No one.

Even taking it in context, it still sounds (to me) an awful lot like "Let them eat cake."