Wash: Psychic, though? That sounds like something out of science fiction. Zoe: We live in a space ship, dear. Wash: So?

'Objects In Space'


Natter Area 51: The Truthiness Is in Here  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 18, 2007 11:20:36 am PDT #3326 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

My views on the general issue are opposed to those of most here, but this is the part that really gets me:

No matter if the mother would be forced to have, for example, a kidney transplant or a hysterectomy if she continued with the pregnancy. (Legislators did not provide a health exception for the woman, arguing that it would provide too big a loophole.)

Because I'm sure fiendishly exploiting a legal loophole to advance the opposing political agenda is foremost in the minds of women seeking late term abortions of pregnancies that have turned out to be medically dangerous to them.


shrift - Apr 18, 2007 11:57:34 am PDT #3327 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I almost wish I'd gotten a little further in that process, just to see what it was like.

If it's the place I think it is, they have what I consider an unnecessary thing on their homepage re: VA Tech.


Scrappy - Apr 18, 2007 12:00:58 pm PDT #3328 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

My mom had a "Late Term Abortion" when I was a very little kid. It was due to a miscarriage that didn't complete and she would have died without it. I have strong feelings on the matter, as you might imagine.


erikaj - Apr 18, 2007 12:09:45 pm PDT #3329 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

can't blame you, Robin.


Connie Neil - Apr 18, 2007 12:13:49 pm PDT #3330 of 10001
brillig

My mom had a "Late Term Abortion" when I was a very little kid. It was due to a miscarriage that didn't complete and she would have died without it. I have strong feelings on the matter, as you might imagine.

So did my mother, and I'd not be here if she hadn't because it was the pregnancy before me. Though Mother always called it a miscarriage, because she wasn't the kind of woman to get an abortion.


Jesse - Apr 18, 2007 12:14:03 pm PDT #3331 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I really can barely even think about any of this stuff, because it makes me so crazy. The good news for your mother, Robin, is that even today she'd be protected if it was her life at stake.


Jesse - Apr 18, 2007 12:15:31 pm PDT #3332 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Connie, on the flip side, I have a friend who works in reproductive health who recently had a miscarriage, and she talked about the abortion she had to get after the fetus stopped growing.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 18, 2007 12:15:49 pm PDT #3333 of 10001
What is even happening?

Where I'm gobsmacked is that health is not seen as justification enough. I mean, I have the right to defend myself in general, just not inside my own body?


erikaj - Apr 18, 2007 12:20:31 pm PDT #3334 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

with a gun, yes. at the doctor, nsm.


sumi - Apr 18, 2007 12:22:35 pm PDT #3335 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Whoa, the Cho did have a history of mental illness -- I didn't know that.

(Assuming that we can trust Fox news?)

And Nikki Giovanni was one of his teachers?

"It was not bad poetry. It was intimidating," poet Nikki Giovanni, one of his professors, told CNN.

"I know we're talking about a youngster, but troubled youngsters get drunk and jump off buildings," she said. "There was something mean about this boy. It was the meanness — I've taught troubled youngsters and crazy people — it was the meanness that bothered me. It was a really mean streak."

Giovanni said her students were so unnerved by Cho's behavior, including taking pictures of them with his cell phone, that some stopped coming to class and she had security check on her room. She eventually had him taken out of her class, after threatening to quit if he wasn't removed.

Lucinda Roy, a co-director of creative writing at Virginia Tech, said she tutored Cho after that. She said she tried to get him into counseling in late 2005 but he always refused.

"He was so distant and so lonely," she told ABC's "Good Morning America" Wednesday. "It was almost like talking to a hole, as though he wasn't there most of the time. He wore sunglasses and his hat very low so it was hard to see his face."