Simon: I'm trying to put this as delicately as I can... How do I know you won't kill me in my sleep? Mal: You don't know me, son. So let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.

'Serenity'


Natter Area 51: The Truthiness Is in Here  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Apr 18, 2007 10:55:37 am PDT #3321 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Cynical look at what Republicans might be up to:

A far more prudent strategy, and the one the President and his advisors will likely adopt, would be to appoint Justices who will preserve Roe but chip away at it slowly, for example, by devising new procedural rules that make it difficult to challenge abortion regulations in federal court, by upholding restrictions on particular medical procedures like partial birth abortion, and by further limiting abortions for minors and poor women. Moderates and independents may not like these changes, but such rulings will be much less likely to induce wholesale defections from the Republican coalition than wiping Roe v. Wade off the books. The latter is a simple, easy to understand result that people can get angry about and rally around. Procedural limitations on abortion, by contrast, are hard to explain to voters and therefore risk less political danger for the Republicans.

Chipping away at Roe slowly not only allows the party to keep moderates and independents from bolting, it also preserves a hated symbol for the party's base of religious conservatives to struggle against. As long as Roe remains law, religious conservatives can point to it as a example of what is wrong with America and with a liberal activist judiciary (which is, of course, increasingly staffed by conservative Republican Presidents!). Thus, the reverse litmus test not only holds the party's winning coalition together, it's also good practical politics.

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Nora Deirdre - Apr 18, 2007 10:59:25 am PDT #3322 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I don't think that's a cynical view as much as a realistic view. I mean, that's what is happening, right? That's why they're doing it, right? Or maybe I'm just cynical!


tommyrot - Apr 18, 2007 11:01:11 am PDT #3323 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

I don't think that's a cynical view as much as a realistic view.

Yeah, I think you're right.


shrift - Apr 18, 2007 11:02:41 am PDT #3324 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Blah. I am blah. Everything is blah. Blaaaaaaah.

Duuuude. In the course of my work just now, I think I stumbled across that place you interviewed at, you know, the one that would be weird and morbid.


Dana - Apr 18, 2007 11:07:24 am PDT #3325 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I think I stumbled across that place you interviewed at, you know, the one that would be weird and morbid.

I almost wish I'd gotten a little further in that process, just to see what it was like.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 18, 2007 11:20:36 am PDT #3326 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

My views on the general issue are opposed to those of most here, but this is the part that really gets me:

No matter if the mother would be forced to have, for example, a kidney transplant or a hysterectomy if she continued with the pregnancy. (Legislators did not provide a health exception for the woman, arguing that it would provide too big a loophole.)

Because I'm sure fiendishly exploiting a legal loophole to advance the opposing political agenda is foremost in the minds of women seeking late term abortions of pregnancies that have turned out to be medically dangerous to them.


shrift - Apr 18, 2007 11:57:34 am PDT #3327 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I almost wish I'd gotten a little further in that process, just to see what it was like.

If it's the place I think it is, they have what I consider an unnecessary thing on their homepage re: VA Tech.


Scrappy - Apr 18, 2007 12:00:58 pm PDT #3328 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

My mom had a "Late Term Abortion" when I was a very little kid. It was due to a miscarriage that didn't complete and she would have died without it. I have strong feelings on the matter, as you might imagine.


erikaj - Apr 18, 2007 12:09:45 pm PDT #3329 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

can't blame you, Robin.


Connie Neil - Apr 18, 2007 12:13:49 pm PDT #3330 of 10001
brillig

My mom had a "Late Term Abortion" when I was a very little kid. It was due to a miscarriage that didn't complete and she would have died without it. I have strong feelings on the matter, as you might imagine.

So did my mother, and I'd not be here if she hadn't because it was the pregnancy before me. Though Mother always called it a miscarriage, because she wasn't the kind of woman to get an abortion.