Willow: Were there dolphins? Tara: Yes. Many dolphins at the pound. Willow: Was there a camel? Tara: There was the front of a camel. A half-camel.

'Selfless'


Spike's Bitches 35: We Got a History  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Nora Deirdre - May 09, 2007 11:06:45 am PDT #8210 of 10003
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

(I didn't mean "shit" in a perjorative sense, btw, just being sorta slangy. It's really an excellent way of putting things.)


vw bug - May 09, 2007 11:06:46 am PDT #8211 of 10003
Mostly lurking...

Anyone have any comments on the e-mail?

t /needy

Oh, who the hell am I kidding?! That tag never closes!


Nora Deirdre - May 09, 2007 11:07:23 am PDT #8212 of 10003
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I like the email, vw.


Sparky1 - May 09, 2007 11:12:25 am PDT #8213 of 10003
Librarian Warlord

I like the email, too, vw. The only suggestion I have is that you put some kind of time frame on it -- "my schedule is fairly flexible for the next few weeks, but I'd really like to speak with you before (date) so I can think about this commitment." Or somesuch.

I didn't fall asleep in my meeting, but it was close.


vw bug - May 09, 2007 11:14:18 am PDT #8214 of 10003
Mostly lurking...

Oh, that's good. Thanks, guys!


Daisy Jane - May 09, 2007 11:14:54 am PDT #8215 of 10003
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

(I didn't mean "shit" in a perjorative sense, btw, just being sorta slangy. It's really an excellent way of putting things.)

Oh, no I didn't think you did. I used to feel like I owed it to someone to be his or her friend or girlfriend and would get really frustrated when they wouldn't behave according to whatever model of correct friend/boyfriend behavior I had in my head. Then I was told I couldn't make anyone behave that way, which made sense, but left me with several more years of frustration over whether or not my models of behavior were wrong and maybe I should just accept others for who they are and then something happened that made me go "Sure. I can't demand that you don't knowingly hurt me, but I have the right to want someone who won't."


beekaytee - May 09, 2007 11:19:41 am PDT #8216 of 10003
Compassionately intolerant

Then I was told I couldn't make anyone behave that way, which made sense, but left me with several more years of frustration over whether or not my models of behavior were wrong and maybe I should just accept others for who they are and then something happened that made me go "Sure. I can't demand that you don't knowingly hurt me, but I have the right to want someone who won't."

Sing it sister!


Connie Neil - May 09, 2007 11:34:03 am PDT #8217 of 10003
brillig

I can't demand that you don't knowingly hurt me, but I have the right to want someone who won't."

Why can't you demand it? If it's a friend, can't you say to them, "What you did here upset me, why did you do that?" If you get lies or waved off or told "You're just too sensitive" then you can say, "You're right, I'm too sensitive to have to deal with this." Some people don't do things knowingly, some people are just drifting along in status quo land and didn't realize the quo hasn't been under the status for a long time.


askye - May 09, 2007 11:34:54 am PDT #8218 of 10003
Thrive to spite them

Everyone has great advice.

YAY for vw getting into the tutoring thing.

And in carroty news - I just realized that the guy might be up here tomorrow for a meeting, and I got excited for a chance to see him but then I realized that I have to leave for a doctor's appointment and so I may not see him. I'm hoping for a chance to give him my cell number since I totally blanked on doing that yesterday.

My dr's appointment is a physical I have to have for the surgery for my teeth , I'm hoping that the appointment will go quickly and I can come back to work but I have a feeling I'm going to have to wait for a long time and then it won't make any sense for me to come all the way back to work.


Daisy Jane - May 09, 2007 11:42:54 am PDT #8219 of 10003
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Why can't you demand it? If it's a friend, can't you say to them, "What you did here upset me, why did you do that?" If you get lies or waved off or told "You're just too sensitive" then you can say, "You're right, I'm too sensitive to have to deal with this." Some people don't do things knowingly, some people are just drifting along in status quo land and didn't realize the quo hasn't been under the status for a long time.

You absolutely can tell them what you need, but if they don't follow through on that there's no way of making them. They may be careless or cruel or maybe they think you're just wrong.

For example: (non-true story) Mr. Jane never calls me during the day or on his breaks which is important to me because I need to be reminded often that my husband loves me. I say to Mr. Jane, "Hey I really need someone who acknowledges his love for me often, like by calling me during the day and stuff." Mr. Jane doesn't comply, or maybe he tries it at first but isn't really into it, in fact, he feels forced and it's actually making him appreciate me less. I have two choices, come to deal with the fact that he's not going to give me what I need or find someone else who will. I can't and shouldn't try to make him make those phone calls.