Whatever happened to the still beating heart of a virgin? No one has any standards anymore.

Giles ,'Lies My Parents Told Me'


Spike's Bitches 35: We Got a History  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Topic!Cindy - May 08, 2007 11:59:38 am PDT #8082 of 10003
What is even happening?

Wasn't your mom just there for a week?


Laura - May 08, 2007 12:01:02 pm PDT #8083 of 10003
Our wings are not tired.

Yay askye with the lovely attention. Whee! Feel free to squee.


Cass - May 08, 2007 12:02:35 pm PDT #8084 of 10003
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

She hasn't been up here since Thanksgiving. I've been down that way a couple of times but didn't even see her the weekend of the other parents' party.

And I really had to think about that because lots of other people have been here in the meantime.


Cass - May 08, 2007 12:04:24 pm PDT #8085 of 10003
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I suspect she intends to come up for a few days, usually less than a whole week, every three months or so. Which dovetails nicely enough with the need to seriously clean the whole place every so often.


juliana - May 08, 2007 12:07:59 pm PDT #8086 of 10003
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Which dovetails nicely enough with the need to seriously clean the whole place every so often.

Ah, the Mom clean. I know it well.

randomness:

I just went shopping at the SOMA Whole Foods with a co-worker, and we ended up doing a conga line through the Health & Beauty section to "Copacabana". We managed to get a few fellow shoppers to join in, too. I love this city.


Cashmere - May 08, 2007 12:11:15 pm PDT #8087 of 10003
Now tagless for your comfort.

but this co-dependant, need to control stuff is coming from her end.

She needs to bail you out, even if you don't need her to.

SA, I have a good friend who's gone through exactly what you're going through (only without the year abroad.) My friend, M's father was an alcoholic who was abusive to her mother. M's mom went above and beyond escaping that situation, building a life and raising her daughter by herself. She sacrificed and gave M everything she could, paying for school, a car, etc. M went on to graduate school to get her doctorate in psychology. She then went on to work for the VA. M is working with severely schizophrenic patients and doing a lot of good but until recently, wasn't making more than enough to survive. Her mother was there as a safety net in case M needed help financially. But Mom used this as a method to control M, too. And she did it often times unnecessarily--she would poke through M's checkbook when M came home for a visit, freak out about her Visa balance, etc. And this was when M had reached 33 years old.

It took a lot of therapy on M's side to learn to handle her mother because her mother was coping with her issues THROUGH M. It was really hard to separate the love from the issues.

End result is that M eventually detangled her mother from her financial affairs and it greatly improved their relationship. I know you're doing what's easiest for you right now, but maybe you can find someone you trust enough but doesn't have such an emotionally vested interest in handling your finances for you. That way your mom can learn to help you when you ask for it, rather than trying to anticipate it. She's creating a self-fulfilling prophecy by assuming you need help and rushing to do it when you're perfectly happy dealing with the consequences yourself.


DavidS - May 08, 2007 12:18:29 pm PDT #8088 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Ultimately, financial independence isn't just a good idea for your relationships with your parents. It is your independence.


Cass - May 08, 2007 12:18:43 pm PDT #8089 of 10003
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I love your city too, juliana.

Ah, the Mom clean. I know it well.
Known in our family as Shirleying.

When I was wee my mom's best friend's mother in law was Shirley. And Shirley was the white gloves checking for dust kind of mother in law. Thus she became a verb.

Actually texted mom that, "It's a good thing that I am not the person who realizes the day before her mother comes that this place is a mess. Nope. Not me. No way."

Her response, "Could be worse. Could be Shirley."

So I have to Shirley the house. Well, mostly Shirley. I am not dusting the ceiling fan or anything. Just, you know, cleaning.


Daisy Jane - May 08, 2007 12:23:16 pm PDT #8090 of 10003
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I love your city too, juliana.

Me three!


esse - May 08, 2007 12:34:13 pm PDT #8091 of 10003
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

End result is that M eventually detangled her mother from her financial affairs and it greatly improved their relationship. I know you're doing what's easiest for you right now, but maybe you can find someone you trust enough but doesn't have such an emotionally vested interest in handling your finances for you. That way your mom can learn to help you when you ask for it, rather than trying to anticipate it. She's creating a self-fulfilling prophecy by assuming you need help and rushing to do it when you're perfectly happy dealing with the consequences yourself.

Oh, Cash, that is exactly the story I needed to hear. Thank you.

God, of all the problems I thought I'd have with my parents, this wasn't one of them. Financial independence ahoy. Only two more months of struggle.

You are all amazing. Thank you for your words, stories, and support. They are invaluable to me.

go team askye!