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§ ita § - Oct 28, 2006 4:38:10 pm PDT #9867 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The Torch has a history longer than the Fantastic Four?

And as for Namor...who likes him? He still has a comic? Pfft. Homewrecker.


DavidS - Oct 28, 2006 4:42:44 pm PDT #9868 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The Torch has a history longer than the Fantastic Four?

Oh yeah. That's why they used his body for the Vision. Or something. I can't keep track of the continuity, but he dates back to the forties. I mean, Johnny Storm is a different Human Torch, but there was one way back when and he was recycled into the Marvel continuity.

And as for Namor...who likes him?

Well, he's always been a dick.


§ ita § - Oct 28, 2006 5:06:03 pm PDT #9869 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Johnny Storm is a different Human Torch, but there was one way back when and he was recycled into the Marvel continuity

Okay, so Johnny is a different torch, how was the old one recycled in? Is that the Vision thing? I need a nap.


DavidS - Oct 28, 2006 5:15:43 pm PDT #9870 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

how was the old one recycled in? Is that the Vision thing? I need a nap.

The original Human Torch was an android. His body was used for The Vision (at one point in continuity - who knows now). The Vision (who was a cheap comics knock off of Mr. Spock, incidentally) got his body from the Human Torch and his "brain patterns" from some guy called Wonder Man. I'm sure that's all been overwritten since.

Here's the wikipedia on the continuity, which has been plowed under several times since my explanation.


P.M. Marc - Oct 28, 2006 5:18:27 pm PDT #9871 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

But I'm boggled that Spider-Woman gets one

I think Jessica has two.

I think. From when I saw these a couple days ago, that is.

But, you know, she's got a new title coming up, and Bendis less than threes her as much as I do, so... promotion, promotion, promotion.


DXMachina - Oct 28, 2006 6:21:55 pm PDT #9872 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

But I'm boggled that Spider-Woman gets one, and that Elektra gets two. I mean, Elektra's worthy, but where the hell is Ororo? She's the nearest thing Marvel's got to Wonder Woman.

No kidding. I guess they didn't want to use two X-Men, but still. Also, no Daredevil or Doc Strange or even Nick Fury? The DC stamp set was the original core of the Justice League (except for J'onn) plus Green Arrow, Hawkman, Plastic Man, and Supergirl.

Okay, so Johnny is a different torch, how was the old one recycled in? Is that the Vision thing? I need a nap.

Yeah, it was a Golden Age - Silver Age thing originally. By coincidence, I was reading the old Avengers issues where they discovered this. Hank Pym (back when he was still a decent fellow) did a Fantastic Voyage type thing in the Vision's body to repair some damage, and noticed something strange. Neal Adams did the art. Terrific stuff.


esse - Oct 29, 2006 1:23:29 am PDT #9873 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I want to buy stock in Plastic Man stamps and use them for ever and ever.


Tom Scola - Oct 29, 2006 2:55:02 am PST #9874 of 10000
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

The Hellboy cartoon-movie that aired last night on Cartoon Network is pretty good. They got Ron Perlman to do the voice, and that counts for a lot.


Jon B. - Oct 29, 2006 3:21:39 am PST #9875 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

In case you missed 'em, DC Stamps: [link]


Kalshane - Oct 29, 2006 5:48:50 am PST #9876 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

The Hellboy cartoon-movie that aired last night on Cartoon Network is pretty good. They got Ron Perlman to do the voice, and that counts for a lot.

Missed that. I'll have to see if my DVR can catch a re-run.