The Torch has a history longer than the Fantastic Four?

Oh yeah. That's why they used his body for the Vision. Or something. I can't keep track of the continuity, but he dates back to the forties. I mean, Johnny Storm is a different Human Torch, but there was one way back when and he was recycled into the Marvel continuity.

And as for Namor...who likes him?

Well, he's always been a dick.

Johnny Storm is a different Human Torch, but there was one way back when and he was recycled into the Marvel continuity

Okay, so Johnny is a different torch, how was the old one recycled in? Is that the Vision thing? I need a nap.

how was the old one recycled in? Is that the Vision thing? I need a nap.

The original Human Torch was an android. His body was used for The Vision (at one point in continuity - who knows now). The Vision (who was a cheap comics knock off of Mr. Spock, incidentally) got his body from the Human Torch and his "brain patterns" from some guy called Wonder Man. I'm sure that's all been overwritten since.

Here's the wikipedia on the continuity, which has been plowed under several times since my explanation.

But I'm boggled that Spider-Woman gets one

I think Jessica has two.

I think. From when I saw these a couple days ago, that is.

But, you know, she's got a new title coming up, and Bendis less than threes her as much as I do, so... promotion, promotion, promotion.

But I'm boggled that Spider-Woman gets one, and that Elektra gets two. I mean, Elektra's worthy, but where the hell is Ororo? She's the nearest thing Marvel's got to Wonder Woman.

No kidding. I guess they didn't want to use two X-Men, but still. Also, no Daredevil or Doc Strange or even Nick Fury? The DC stamp set was the original core of the Justice League (except for J'onn) plus Green Arrow, Hawkman, Plastic Man, and Supergirl.

Okay, so Johnny is a different torch, how was the old one recycled in? Is that the Vision thing? I need a nap.

Yeah, it was a Golden Age - Silver Age thing originally. By coincidence, I was reading the old Avengers issues where they discovered this. Hank Pym (back when he was still a decent fellow) did a Fantastic Voyage type thing in the Vision's body to repair some damage, and noticed something strange. Neal Adams did the art. Terrific stuff.

I want to buy stock in Plastic Man stamps and use them for ever and ever.

The Hellboy cartoon-movie that aired last night on Cartoon Network is pretty good. They got Ron Perlman to do the voice, and that counts for a lot.

In case you missed 'em, DC Stamps: [link]

The Hellboy cartoon-movie that aired last night on Cartoon Network is pretty good. They got Ron Perlman to do the voice, and that counts for a lot.

Missed that. I'll have to see if my DVR can catch a re-run.

Also? It was surprisingly profane for what is supposed to be kid's TV. Perlman must have said "crap" about a dozen times, along with "damn", "dumbass", and of course, "hell".