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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


P.M. Marc - Jun 10, 2004 4:39:19 pm PDT #3666 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Woo!

Go go, gadget JMS!


Steph L. - Jun 10, 2004 5:03:36 pm PDT #3667 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

amych, whenever you see this, I'm assuming the crack you have for me is downloadable, but I can't remember the address. (I do, however, remember the user ID and password.)

Please to assist?


amych - Jun 11, 2004 1:58:15 am PDT #3668 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

insent, teppy


Kalshane - Jun 11, 2004 6:06:08 am PDT #3669 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

More classic X-Men reading. Had to read a summary of some early X-Factor issues to figure out how Jean came back to life. Um, okay. Getting a little tired of the "It wasn't me that died, it was a shapeshifter/alien entity/robot" trope. Also feel like it sort of cheapens some of the Pheonix storyline. Also also, if Pheonix wasn't part of Jean, but an alien entity, why is her daughter manifesting the same powers?

Does the "it wasn't actually Jean" get changed again down the road? Because I know the movies, UXM, and a glimpse of the future we got in X-Men: Evolution all have Jean is the Pheonix.

I understand the Cyke-hate now, though it looks like their marriage was already on the rocks long before Jean's ressurection. Still doesn't make him a great guy, but he didn't just walk out on his marriage the instant Jean showed up either.

An odd little mythology-related question, I guess. In a book I just read, Rachel Summers apparently becomes subservient to the villain Spiral after "dancing the spiral" in her realm. In the Werewolf RPG, evil werewolves cement their allegience to the forces of corruption by "dancing the black spiral". Is this just coincidence or is there some mythological precedent that links dancing and spirals to corruption?


DavidS - Jun 11, 2004 8:09:56 am PDT #3670 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Getting a little tired of the "It wasn't me that died, it was a shapeshifter/alien entity/robot" trope.

I think it's about the worst narrative cheat there is.


§ ita § - Jun 11, 2004 8:25:09 am PDT #3671 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Comics are replete with that narrative cheat, sadly.


DavidS - Jun 11, 2004 8:42:17 am PDT #3672 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Comics are replete with that narrative cheat, sadly.

I know. I don't like the TV variations either, and dock Farscape many points for jerking the Main Character Dies thread too many times. (Though I thought the death of Talyn!John was fair and sad and well done.) Then again, I don't think Angel should've been allowed to return to life. Ultimately it drained the impact of deaths that did stick (like Zhaan or some ME characters) because I kept wondering if they were going to come back.


§ ita § - Jun 11, 2004 9:09:36 am PDT #3673 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Angel was never killed.

That having been said, Stargate of all shows gets me choked up every time they "kill" someone. And that's a bunch of times each season.

In comics it feels so terribly predictable. I'm only said Troia's dead because I can't read her in any story. It takes an extremely well-crafted DC/Marvel story to get me sad about the idea of a major character's death. And it never lasts. UNLESS YOU'RE CYPHER AND WRONGLY MURDERED.

I will be sad but satisfied if Colossus stays dead. But that's easy to say, since he's alive in Ultimate. Speaking of which -- this week he was propositioned by a guy -- maybe this'll set some wheels turning for him.


sumi - Jun 11, 2004 9:23:52 am PDT #3674 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Well, he came back from Hell -- maybe that's what David means?

But she didn't dust him to send him to Hell -- she just stabbed him which couldn't have killed him.


shrift - Jun 11, 2004 9:38:08 am PDT #3675 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

ita! I may have giggled in an unseemly fashion when Colossus went KA-CHUNK! right after Jean-Paul asked if he was single. So terribly cute.