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More classic X-Men reading. Had to read a summary of some early X-Factor issues to figure out how Jean came back to life. Um, okay. Getting a little tired of the "It wasn't me that died, it was a shapeshifter/alien entity/robot" trope. Also feel like it sort of cheapens some of the Pheonix storyline. Also also, if Pheonix wasn't part of Jean, but an alien entity, why is her daughter manifesting the same powers?

Does the "it wasn't actually Jean" get changed again down the road? Because I know the movies, UXM, and a glimpse of the future we got in X-Men: Evolution all have Jean is the Pheonix.

I understand the Cyke-hate now, though it looks like their marriage was already on the rocks long before Jean's ressurection. Still doesn't make him a great guy, but he didn't just walk out on his marriage the instant Jean showed up either.

An odd little mythology-related question, I guess. In a book I just read, Rachel Summers apparently becomes subservient to the villain Spiral after "dancing the spiral" in her realm. In the Werewolf RPG, evil werewolves cement their allegience to the forces of corruption by "dancing the black spiral". Is this just coincidence or is there some mythological precedent that links dancing and spirals to corruption?

Getting a little tired of the "It wasn't me that died, it was a shapeshifter/alien entity/robot" trope.

I think it's about the worst narrative cheat there is.

Comics are replete with that narrative cheat, sadly.

Comics are replete with that narrative cheat, sadly.

I know. I don't like the TV variations either, and dock Farscape many points for jerking the Main Character Dies thread too many times. (Though I thought the death of Talyn!John was fair and sad and well done.) Then again, I don't think Angel should've been allowed to return to life. Ultimately it drained the impact of deaths that did stick (like Zhaan or some ME characters) because I kept wondering if they were going to come back.

Angel was never killed.

That having been said, Stargate of all shows gets me choked up every time they "kill" someone. And that's a bunch of times each season.

In comics it feels so terribly predictable. I'm only said Troia's dead because I can't read her in any story. It takes an extremely well-crafted DC/Marvel story to get me sad about the idea of a major character's death. And it never lasts. UNLESS YOU'RE CYPHER AND WRONGLY MURDERED.

I will be sad but satisfied if Colossus stays dead. But that's easy to say, since he's alive in Ultimate. Speaking of which -- this week he was propositioned by a guy -- maybe this'll set some wheels turning for him.

Well, he came back from Hell -- maybe that's what David means?

But she didn't dust him to send him to Hell -- she just stabbed him which couldn't have killed him.

ita! I may have giggled in an unseemly fashion when Colossus went KA-CHUNK! right after Jean-Paul asked if he was single. So terribly cute.

That's one hell of a hard on, isn't it?

Thank you, ita, for now I am giggling in an unseemly fashion once again.

Man of Steel, Man of Kleenex?