Comics are replete with that narrative cheat, sadly.

I know. I don't like the TV variations either, and dock Farscape many points for jerking the Main Character Dies thread too many times. (Though I thought the death of Talyn!John was fair and sad and well done.) Then again, I don't think Angel should've been allowed to return to life. Ultimately it drained the impact of deaths that did stick (like Zhaan or some ME characters) because I kept wondering if they were going to come back.

Angel was never killed.

That having been said, Stargate of all shows gets me choked up every time they "kill" someone. And that's a bunch of times each season.

In comics it feels so terribly predictable. I'm only said Troia's dead because I can't read her in any story. It takes an extremely well-crafted DC/Marvel story to get me sad about the idea of a major character's death. And it never lasts. UNLESS YOU'RE CYPHER AND WRONGLY MURDERED.

I will be sad but satisfied if Colossus stays dead. But that's easy to say, since he's alive in Ultimate. Speaking of which -- this week he was propositioned by a guy -- maybe this'll set some wheels turning for him.

Well, he came back from Hell -- maybe that's what David means?

But she didn't dust him to send him to Hell -- she just stabbed him which couldn't have killed him.

ita! I may have giggled in an unseemly fashion when Colossus went KA-CHUNK! right after Jean-Paul asked if he was single. So terribly cute.

That's one hell of a hard on, isn't it?

Thank you, ita, for now I am giggling in an unseemly fashion once again.

Man of Steel, Man of Kleenex?

Bwah!

Yeah, time for me to take a break from the computer. This is way too obviously not work.

I was amused by the Colossus thing too. Though I guess the way they're going with him means no Kitty and Colossus romance in the Ultimate-verse. Which is fine with me, as much as I'm enjoying it in the classic X-men I'm reading.

I'd actually like to see a followup on Kitty's crush on Spiderman and if anything's changed now that she knows his identity (along with half the free world, apparently.) It'd be an interesting break for the normal Marvel-verse. I mean, they're all still in highschool. There's plenty of time for them to date and without screwing up the "official" ship.

ETA: Speaking of the classic X-Men stuff, I'm really enjoying the current (for me) line-up of Storm (kicking ass and taking names sans-powers), Nightcrawler, Colossus, Kitty, Wolverine and Rogue. Probably one of the reasons I liked the X-Men:Evolution cartoon so much, even if it was AU and occasionally cheesy, the line-up was very similiar. (Trade out Colossus for Jean and Cyke.) Don't really care either way about Rachel.

More classic X-Men reading. Had to read a summary of some early X-Factor issues to figure out how Jean came back to life. Um, okay.

Actually, if you can find the issues where the resurrection actually took place, they're worth reading, if only for the laugh factor of Jean calling out "help me!" from her cocoon on the bottom of the Hudson River. I think they were collected in a TPB a while back.

Getting a little tired of the "It wasn't me that died, it was a shapeshifter/alien entity/robot" trope. Also feel like it sort of cheapens some of the Pheonix storyline.

This has been the complaint of XM fans for years.

Also also, if Pheonix wasn't part of Jean, but an alien entity, why is her daughter manifesting the same powers?

Huh. Good question. I think it's been explained that the Phoenix force has an affinity for Jean's genes (heh). Also, Rachel is her daughter from an alternate timeline, where, as far as we know, Jean/Phoenix never sacrificed herself on the moon, went on to marry Scott and had a daughter. So, I suppose she could have inherited the Phoenix force from her mother in her own timeline.

Does the "it wasn't actually Jean" get changed again down the road? Because I know the movies, UXM, and a glimpse of the future we got in X-Men: Evolution all have Jean is the Pheonix.

Jean, at some point, gets all of Phoenix!Jean and (I think) Madelyne Pryor's memories, so she's up to speed on everything that happened while she was dead. Also, it's been fairly consistent that Jean gets the Phoenix force in all AUs that we've seen, except in AOA, where the fact that she never became Phoenix is (indirectly) the reason the world is ending.

Well, I knew Rachel was from an alternate timeline. It just makes wonder now if in that timeline Jean actually was Pheonix or if she's not actually the daughter of Jean but instead the daughter of the Pheonix entity.

Though now I remember Rachel recalling that in her timeline, Jean's parents don't reject her when she comes to them as Dark Pheonix and that's what allows her revert back to normal. Still doesn't explain whether it's real!Jean or alien!Jean in that timeline, but clarifies that's she's the daughter of the original Pheonix, either way.