Getting a little tired of the "It wasn't me that died, it was a shapeshifter/alien entity/robot" trope.
I think it's about the worst narrative cheat there is.
You're not friends. You'll never be friends. You'll be in love till it kills you both.
Spike ,'Sleeper'
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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.
DavidS - Jun 11, 2004 8:09:56 am PDT #3670 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
§ ita § - Jun 11, 2004 8:25:09 am PDT #3671 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Comics are replete with that narrative cheat, sadly.
DavidS - Jun 11, 2004 8:42:17 am PDT #3672 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Comics are replete with that narrative cheat, sadly.
I know. I don't like the TV variations either, and dock Farscape many points for jerking the Main Character Dies thread too many times. (Though I thought the death of Talyn!John was fair and sad and well done.) Then again, I don't think Angel should've been allowed to return to life. Ultimately it drained the impact of deaths that did stick (like Zhaan or some ME characters) because I kept wondering if they were going to come back.
§ ita § - Jun 11, 2004 9:09:36 am PDT #3673 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Angel was never killed.
That having been said, Stargate of all shows gets me choked up every time they "kill" someone. And that's a bunch of times each season.
In comics it feels so terribly predictable. I'm only said Troia's dead because I can't read her in any story. It takes an extremely well-crafted DC/Marvel story to get me sad about the idea of a major character's death. And it never lasts. UNLESS YOU'RE CYPHER AND WRONGLY MURDERED.
I will be sad but satisfied if Colossus stays dead. But that's easy to say, since he's alive in Ultimate. Speaking of which -- this week he was propositioned by a guy -- maybe this'll set some wheels turning for him.
sumi - Jun 11, 2004 9:23:52 am PDT #3674 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!
Well, he came back from Hell -- maybe that's what David means?
But she didn't dust him to send him to Hell -- she just stabbed him which couldn't have killed him.
shrift - Jun 11, 2004 9:38:08 am PDT #3675 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty
ita! I may have giggled in an unseemly fashion when Colossus went KA-CHUNK! right after Jean-Paul asked if he was single. So terribly cute.
§ ita § - Jun 11, 2004 9:41:50 am PDT #3676 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
That's one hell of a hard on, isn't it?
shrift - Jun 11, 2004 9:47:25 am PDT #3677 of 10000
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty
Thank you, ita, for now I am giggling in an unseemly fashion once again.
Man of Steel, Man of Kleenex?
§ ita § - Jun 11, 2004 9:49:23 am PDT #3678 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Bwah!
Yeah, time for me to take a break from the computer. This is way too obviously not work.
Kalshane - Jun 11, 2004 9:53:46 am PDT #3679 of 10000
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
I was amused by the Colossus thing too. Though I guess the way they're going with him means no Kitty and Colossus romance in the Ultimate-verse. Which is fine with me, as much as I'm enjoying it in the classic X-men I'm reading.
I'd actually like to see a followup on Kitty's crush on Spiderman and if anything's changed now that she knows his identity (along with half the free world, apparently.) It'd be an interesting break for the normal Marvel-verse. I mean, they're all still in highschool. There's plenty of time for them to date and without screwing up the "official" ship.
ETA: Speaking of the classic X-Men stuff, I'm really enjoying the current (for me) line-up of Storm (kicking ass and taking names sans-powers), Nightcrawler, Colossus, Kitty, Wolverine and Rogue. Probably one of the reasons I liked the X-Men:Evolution cartoon so much, even if it was AU and occasionally cheesy, the line-up was very similiar. (Trade out Colossus for Jean and Cyke.) Don't really care either way about Rachel.