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§ ita § - May 11, 2004 8:11:48 am PDT #2555 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Does Aquaman have powers his compatriots lack?


victor infante - May 11, 2004 8:12:26 am PDT #2556 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Like I said before, the X-Men are dodgier propositions as "super-heroes" than one would think, and old Wolvie's probably straddling that line mostof all. That being said, he's probably a bit closer to it for Prof. X's influence than he'd be otherwise.

If there's a gray area here, he's it.


Miracleman - May 11, 2004 8:12:51 am PDT #2557 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Does Aquaman have powers his compatriots lack?

Telepathically talking to fish.

Um. Yeah, that's about it. Unless you call "Sovereign of 75% of the Planet" a power.


Steph L. - May 11, 2004 8:13:36 am PDT #2558 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Telepathically talking to fish.

Batman could beat the crap out of the fish until it decides to talk to him verbally.


§ ita § - May 11, 2004 8:14:48 am PDT #2559 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

the X-Men are dodgier propositions as "super-heroes" than one would think

I dunno. Taken individually, Jean, Beast, Storm, Cyclops -- all (usually) seem driven by noble impulses. There's a degree of refugee/shelterness to them, which sees them tied up with Morlocks, or Forge, or New Mutants, or whatever, but Cyclops seems an undeniable superhero to me.

Telepathically talking to fish.

How come he can do that, and other Atlanteans can't?


victor infante - May 11, 2004 8:15:00 am PDT #2560 of 10000
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Does Aquaman have powers his compatriots lack?

Sure. He can breathe underwater (which, OK, so can Supes) and can communicate with and control sea life. And, while the Martian Manhunter's telepathy is more "powerful," Aquaman has pulled a few stunts with it that J'onn hasn't exhibited.


Kiba Rika - May 11, 2004 8:15:03 am PDT #2561 of 10000
I may have to seize the cat.

Aquaman is the shiznit, y'all.

Not quite up there with the Submariner, but so close.


Steph L. - May 11, 2004 8:15:38 am PDT #2562 of 10000
I look more rad than Lutheranism

How come he can do that, and other Atlanteans can't?

They can; they just all realize what a lame power it is.


§ ita § - May 11, 2004 8:16:25 am PDT #2563 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He can breathe underwater

Atlanteans are air breathers?


Miracleman - May 11, 2004 8:17:50 am PDT #2564 of 10000
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

Batman could beat the crap out of the fish until it decides to talk to him verbally.

Batman wouldn't have to beat up the fish. He'd just sit still and stare at the fish until the fish got so uncomfortable that the fish confessed to everything.

"Yes! YES! I admit it! I shoved Flipper into the net! STOP STARING AT ME!"