Oh, wow. This place looks great. Oh, I feel like a witch in a magic shop.

Willow ,'Help'


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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


§ ita § - May 10, 2004 5:36:10 pm PDT #2499 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't know enough about Spider Jerusalem to say if he's a superhero or not.

I don't think you have to be a superhero to carry off a mainstream comic, though.


Frankenbuddha - May 10, 2004 5:38:21 pm PDT #2500 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I don't think you have to be a superhero to carry off a mainstream comic, though.

I wouldn't call John Constantine a super-hero, for instance, but he's the protaganist of a comic (or at least he was, last I knew).

I'm not sure Sandman is a superhero, but he definitely has superpowers.


§ ita § - May 10, 2004 5:43:43 pm PDT #2501 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

John's super, though, and does savey things. Heroic even.

What's your definition?

Sandman, NSM with the saving, though.


Volans - May 10, 2004 5:46:05 pm PDT #2502 of 10000
move out and draw fire

In a way, Batman's money gives him superpowers. What with the computers and the toys and the vehicles, he's able to be places, do things, and know things far faster than a normal human.

And yeah, I'm looking at superhero comics, not any other kind. Not the Watchmen, or V for Vendetta, or Preacher, or whatever. What do you call those comics anyway? Is that what the term "graphic novel" is for?


Polter-Cow - May 10, 2004 5:48:44 pm PDT #2503 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Is that what the term "graphic novel" is for?

I think so. Although I think of Preacher as a comic. And Watchmen, actually, might be a comic. I think it counts as a comic if it came out in separate issues. Graphic novels are simply long stories told in comic-book style, with panels.


Frankenbuddha - May 10, 2004 5:49:10 pm PDT #2504 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

John's super, though, and does savey things. Heroic even.

Well, to bring it back to the ME-verse, Buffy and Angel are superheroes (I'm going to spell that differently everytime, I swear, and not on purpose *sigh*), but I don't think Wesley is. Is Constantine more of a superhero than Wes? Is it the demon blood?

What's your definition?

I guess it's a gut level call. I knows them when I sees them?

Good topic of discuss though.


§ ita § - May 10, 2004 5:49:26 pm PDT #2505 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Where do you file the Punisher, Raquel?

And graphic novel, as far as I understand it, is just a format term, not a content one -- it's bigger than a comic, with a cover like a paperback, and is (often) a compilation of individual, previously published issues.


§ ita § - May 10, 2004 5:51:06 pm PDT #2506 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is Constantine more of a superhero than Wes?

Well, he's as super as Zatanna, no, or Dr Strange?

Wesley's not a superhero, but the Halliwell girls are, if that makes any sense.


Frankenbuddha - May 10, 2004 5:52:09 pm PDT #2507 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

And yeah, I'm looking at superhero comics, not any other kind. Not the Watchmen, or V for Vendetta, or Preacher

See, but there it is: I'd call Watchmen without a doubt a superhero comic, but not V for Vendetta. Don't know Preacher at all though.

Which brings up another Alan Moore - League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (SO not talking about the movie here), which I think is more of a superhero comic than Hellblazer (where John Constantine is from).


Volans - May 10, 2004 5:55:32 pm PDT #2508 of 10000
move out and draw fire

I'd call Watchmen without a doubt a superhero comic, but not V for Vendetta.

So it IS the tights.

I'd file Punisher (heh...typed Pinusher) as a not-superhero, just a normal guy willing to go the extra mile. Unless he's in the old-skool costume with the tights, because tights=superhero.

In ME, Buffy and Angel are superheros, Xander and Giles are not. Willow wasn't and became one.