Is Constantine more of a superhero than Wes?
Well, he's as super as Zatanna, no, or Dr Strange?
Wesley's not a superhero, but the Halliwell girls are, if that makes any sense.
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§ ita § - May 10, 2004 5:51:06 pm PDT #2506 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Frankenbuddha - May 10, 2004 5:52:09 pm PDT #2507 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
And yeah, I'm looking at superhero comics, not any other kind. Not the Watchmen, or V for Vendetta, or Preacher
See, but there it is: I'd call Watchmen without a doubt a superhero comic, but not V for Vendetta. Don't know Preacher at all though.
Which brings up another Alan Moore - League of Extraordinary Gentlemen (SO not talking about the movie here), which I think is more of a superhero comic than Hellblazer (where John Constantine is from).
Volans - May 10, 2004 5:55:32 pm PDT #2508 of 10000
move out and draw fire
I'd call Watchmen without a doubt a superhero comic, but not V for Vendetta.
So it IS the tights.
I'd file Punisher (heh...typed Pinusher) as a not-superhero, just a normal guy willing to go the extra mile. Unless he's in the old-skool costume with the tights, because tights=superhero.
In ME, Buffy and Angel are superheros, Xander and Giles are not. Willow wasn't and became one.
Frankenbuddha - May 10, 2004 5:55:32 pm PDT #2509 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Well, he's as super as Zatanna, no, or Dr Strange?
Huh, I don't remember Constantine as being as powerful as Dr. Strange, but it has been a LOOONG time since I read those. Strange I always thought of as Willow powerful, but I always pinged Constantine as "knows a few handy tricks, but not about to take down monsters single-hand".
The Buffistas are a bad influence. Sooo many books I haven't read once, and now I want to start digging out my comics.
Holli - May 10, 2004 5:59:28 pm PDT #2510 of 10000
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore
Played catchup at the comic book store yesterday: I picked up the latest three Y: The Last Mans, the last four Ultimate Spideys, and the the last two Tales of the Vampires...es. I very pointedly steered clear of the Bat-titles, because I spent too much money without them. Besides, Ultimate Spidey is a wee hyper ball of adorablesness.
Frankenbuddha - May 10, 2004 5:59:32 pm PDT #2511 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
So it IS the tights.
Well, that's what's cool about V for Vendetta - he wears a mask and a cape, but not so much with the tights.
However, he's in more of a costume than Rorschach in Watchmen (who just had the mask).
Polter-Cow - May 10, 2004 6:11:03 pm PDT #2512 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Willow wasn't and became one.
I never thought of Willow as a superhero. She had magic powers, yes, but she never went out on her own to fight the good fight, she was always the accompanist.
Though I guess by that definition, the individual members of, say, the Fantastic Four wouldn't be superheroes. When they are. I just never got a superhero vibe from Willow. I don't think I mean "accompanist" in terms of doing, but thinking.
I'd call Watchmen without a doubt a superhero comic
Definitely.
amych - May 10, 2004 6:12:55 pm PDT #2513 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
she never went out on her own to fight the good fight, she was always the accompanist.
So a superhero has to be the lead actor and not a sidekick?
§ ita § - May 10, 2004 6:15:19 pm PDT #2514 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I don't see how Watchmen can not be a superhero comic. It's emblematic, ur-, something I can't think of right now.
Constantine's saved the world. What more can I guy do?
Polter-Cow - May 10, 2004 6:22:54 pm PDT #2515 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
So a superhero has to be the lead actor and not a sidekick?
See, that makes Robin not a superhero, when, as half of the Dynamic Duo (Dynamic? Did I get that wrong?), he is. I think I just don't see Willow as a superhero. And maybe not even Buffy and Angel. It could be a medium thing. I'm not sure how I would define a superhero. Hm.