She didn't even touch her pumpkin. It's a freak with no face.

Willow ,'Help'


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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Volans - May 10, 2004 5:55:32 pm PDT #2508 of 10000
move out and draw fire

I'd call Watchmen without a doubt a superhero comic, but not V for Vendetta.

So it IS the tights.

I'd file Punisher (heh...typed Pinusher) as a not-superhero, just a normal guy willing to go the extra mile. Unless he's in the old-skool costume with the tights, because tights=superhero.

In ME, Buffy and Angel are superheros, Xander and Giles are not. Willow wasn't and became one.


Frankenbuddha - May 10, 2004 5:55:32 pm PDT #2509 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Well, he's as super as Zatanna, no, or Dr Strange?

Huh, I don't remember Constantine as being as powerful as Dr. Strange, but it has been a LOOONG time since I read those. Strange I always thought of as Willow powerful, but I always pinged Constantine as "knows a few handy tricks, but not about to take down monsters single-hand".

The Buffistas are a bad influence. Sooo many books I haven't read once, and now I want to start digging out my comics.


Holli - May 10, 2004 5:59:28 pm PDT #2510 of 10000
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

Played catchup at the comic book store yesterday: I picked up the latest three Y: The Last Mans, the last four Ultimate Spideys, and the the last two Tales of the Vampires...es. I very pointedly steered clear of the Bat-titles, because I spent too much money without them. Besides, Ultimate Spidey is a wee hyper ball of adorablesness.


Frankenbuddha - May 10, 2004 5:59:32 pm PDT #2511 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

So it IS the tights.

Well, that's what's cool about V for Vendetta - he wears a mask and a cape, but not so much with the tights.

However, he's in more of a costume than Rorschach in Watchmen (who just had the mask).


Polter-Cow - May 10, 2004 6:11:03 pm PDT #2512 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Willow wasn't and became one.

I never thought of Willow as a superhero. She had magic powers, yes, but she never went out on her own to fight the good fight, she was always the accompanist.

Though I guess by that definition, the individual members of, say, the Fantastic Four wouldn't be superheroes. When they are. I just never got a superhero vibe from Willow. I don't think I mean "accompanist" in terms of doing, but thinking.

I'd call Watchmen without a doubt a superhero comic

Definitely.


amych - May 10, 2004 6:12:55 pm PDT #2513 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

she never went out on her own to fight the good fight, she was always the accompanist.

So a superhero has to be the lead actor and not a sidekick?


§ ita § - May 10, 2004 6:15:19 pm PDT #2514 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't see how Watchmen can not be a superhero comic. It's emblematic, ur-, something I can't think of right now.

Constantine's saved the world. What more can I guy do?


Polter-Cow - May 10, 2004 6:22:54 pm PDT #2515 of 10000
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

So a superhero has to be the lead actor and not a sidekick?

See, that makes Robin not a superhero, when, as half of the Dynamic Duo (Dynamic? Did I get that wrong?), he is. I think I just don't see Willow as a superhero. And maybe not even Buffy and Angel. It could be a medium thing. I'm not sure how I would define a superhero. Hm.


Frankenbuddha - May 10, 2004 6:27:48 pm PDT #2516 of 10000
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

What more can I guy do?

Take out Keanu so he can't do the movie.


Steph L. - May 10, 2004 6:40:30 pm PDT #2517 of 10000
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Ultimate Spidey is a wee hyper ball of adorablesness.

Shit. I am so far behind in Ultimate Spidey that I need to figure out where I left off and buy the TPBs to catch up.

he's in more of a costume than Rorschach in Watchmen (who just had the mask).

Man, Rorschach is fucked UP.