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§ ita § - Nov 16, 2004 5:25:36 pm PST #8816 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The tidy alternatives proposed are -- have it fix it in the database or have it saved as entered, and fix it every time it's displayed (with a note visible only to the post owner).


Liese S. - Nov 16, 2004 5:32:17 pm PST #8817 of 10000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

When clarified like that, I lean towards on display. Then I can correct it myself, right?

I'm one of those people who never uses a preview option, even when offered. I make my mistakes for the whole internet to see, 'cause I'm too damned impatient to wait for a whole 'nother click-through screen. My dial-up is sometimes painfully slow. Of course, I don't want my mistakes to broke nothin', so it's all good.


DXMachina - Nov 16, 2004 5:34:35 pm PST #8818 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I think I'd rather have the post fixed at the database rather than having to fix it every time it's displayed. That seems wasteful of resources.


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2004 6:01:50 pm PST #8819 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I, OTOH, am pretty adamant about not wanting what I typed changed, if not by me or a stompy. It's a thing that transcends my resource concerns.


Jon B. - Nov 16, 2004 6:50:10 pm PST #8820 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Here's the flow I'm imagining:

  • Poster types a post and submits it.
  • Post gets saved to a temporary variable and gets run through TidyPlus.
  • If TidyPlus does nothing, post gets posted. End of story.

  • If TidyPlus finds errors, it writes a suggested fixed post to another temporary variable.
  • A page that looks somewhat like editpost.php is loaded. Near the top of this page is displayed how the Tidy'ed post will look. Below that is one or maybe two multiline text boxes.
  • If it's one box, it could contain either the text of the original post or the text of the Tidy'ed post. The poster either makes changes to the post or (only if it contains the Tidy'ed text) accepts the changes as is and hits submit.
  • Another option is to have two text boxes and two submit buttons -- one box and button with the original text and one with the Tidy'ed text. The poster could change or accept the text in either of the two text boxes, and then hit submit below the text box containing the text they want to post.

  • If the resubmitted post still has html problems, the process begins anew.


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2004 6:55:45 pm PST #8821 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If the resubmitted post still has html problems, the process begins anew.

The theory being that crap is never allowed through?


Jon B. - Nov 16, 2004 7:02:05 pm PST #8822 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Exactly. Why would we want something posted that will mess up other posts or the entire showthread.php page?


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2004 7:05:33 pm PST #8823 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Why would we want something posted that will mess up other posts or the entire showthread.php page?

We absolutely wouldn't.

I wonder, however, about two things:

1. We get caught in a user-controlled loop of no submission (admittedly, a really easy one to escape).
2. Before we can run tidy on it, we have to do the expansion from quickedit. I wonder if there's a risk of a combo of bad HTML entered by the users, and expanded quickedits that would give a tidy error, but not be easy to eyeball as a problem for the user -- see, we're not presenting the HTML that would be posted to the user to be fixed.

Okay, now I'm obsessing about #2.


Jon B. - Nov 16, 2004 7:11:32 pm PST #8824 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

1 isn't a problem because the user can always submit the Tidy'ed version as presented. I'll have to think on 2.

Once we get this figured out, I think we should start Tidying content. We could start with not allowing a post to be submitted if it contains two or more LOL's.


DCJensen - Nov 16, 2004 7:13:09 pm PST #8825 of 10000
All is well that ends in pizza.

Okay, now I'm obsessing about #2.

Wow, it's like you are in a controlled loop and won't submit.

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