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§ ita § - Nov 16, 2004 3:55:36 am PST #8793 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

unless we figure out a way to make it clear to the poster that only the poster can see the warning message

Why can't we just tell them?

Honestly, I think it useless information to me that Jon forgot to close his italics tag, but valuable information for Jon.

At best I'm now more aware that Jon can't HTML to save his life, or is having a fat fingered thinko sort of day.


Gus - Nov 16, 2004 5:00:35 am PST #8794 of 10000
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Something like ...

Private message: You fat-fingered the URL. Put the pipe DOWN.

Okay, maybe a little less blunt.

BTW: The only error that will be reported will be for unbalanced value delimiters that Tidy can't figure out. "Private message: HTML error found. Check your quote marks."


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2004 5:02:35 am PST #8795 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Can't you return a generic error message for anything Tidy needs to fix?


Jessica - Nov 16, 2004 5:04:40 am PST #8796 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Is there any way that the poster could be notified before the post ...posts? Like, if the HTML is too screwy for Tidy, instead of posting, take the poster to the Edit page with a note at the top saying "Your HTML can't be Tidied, you'll have to fix it yourself."

That way, no board-breakage, and no embarrassment.


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2004 5:08:11 am PST #8797 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Gus -- correct me if I'm wrong -- if Tidy can find it, Tidy can fix it. If Tidy can't find it, it's mismatched quotes or mistyped tags. Mismatched quotes we also fix, and mistyped tags will probably be yanked out.

Basically, I think that if we can find it, we can fix it.


Gus - Nov 16, 2004 5:18:37 am PST #8798 of 10000
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Tidy can find unbalanced quotes but won't fix them beyond containing the problem. Right now, I'm not post-Tidy processing to fix them. Should I? We already own most of the code to do that. Frankly, I don't know why Tidy throws in the towel on that one.

Mistyped tags are found by Tidy. It will report t bogus='100' out as an unknown tag. No one can automatically fix that problem. There is a message I could recast about the condition, and I'll do so.


§ ita § - Nov 16, 2004 5:31:23 am PST #8799 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Mistyped tags are found by Tidy.

No need, unless we're revisiting the decision to strip all but a subset of tags.


Jesse - Nov 16, 2004 5:49:16 am PST #8800 of 10000
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

You guys are so fancy.


Jon B. - Nov 16, 2004 5:56:05 am PST #8801 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Is there any way that the poster could be notified before the post ...posts? Like, if the HTML is too screwy for Tidy, instead of posting, take the poster to the Edit page with a note at the top saying "Your HTML can't be Tidied, you'll have to fix it yourself."

I think I like this idea. I might even extend it to posts that can be tidied. Whenever a post is sumitted, it would get run through Tidy and Gus' TidyPlus©. If they do anything to the post, the user gets sent to a special editpost page with a comment on top that says, "Your post contained some unfoamy html. We tried to fix it for you. Here's what it will look like. Either accept the changes we made, or fix it yourself in the text box below. Loser."


Gus - Nov 16, 2004 6:04:33 am PST #8802 of 10000
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

I think I like this idea. I might even extend it to posts that can be tidied. Whenever a post is sumitted, it would get run through Tidy and Gus' TidyPlus©. If they do anything to the post, the user gets sent to a special editpost page with a comment on top that says, "Your post contained some unfoamy html. We tried to fix it for you. Here's what it will look like. Either accept the changes we made, or fix it yourself in the text box below. Loser."

Doable. We could also add the Tidy error output as a comment in their text.

Any opposed?