pages will be impossible for us coders to read

What do you use, Jon?

My general practice is to use a reformatting tool -- in BBEdit, I reformat into "Hierarchical", which is the kind of layout you've used here, for working on the code. Then if optimisation is required, do it as the last stage before upload.

When I need to work on the page again, I download it and put it back into hierarchical layout again.

I don't use the refresh. Like Ple said, it's a control issue. Plus, I don't read all the threads, so Read New is useless for me. When I want to check new posts, I hit Message Center to list all the threads over again. Just like hitting Reload when we were at WX. No biggie. S'just a button, or a command.

Plus, I don't read all the threads, so Read New is useless for me.

Something tells me you're confused about what Read New does...

Nah. There are threads I subscribe to that I don't read as often as others. Read new would take me to those.

I prefer not to.

Sounds like SA is confused, though -- SA it only reads the threads you're subscribed to, if you're subscribed to any.

Still might not work for you.

What do you use, Jon?

Dreamweaver, mostly.

Are you saying that bbedit can reformat back and forth between a hierarchically formatted page and a page with everything squished together? Because that would be cool.

And for all I know, Dreamweaver can do that too; I've never looked for it...

IIRC, Dreamweaver has something called "clean up HTML" that will indent and color all the tags for you. (Of course, I haven't used it in years, and so have no actual helpful information.)

I was just playing with "clean-up html" and I don't think it helps here. But thanks!

Are you saying that bbedit can reformat back and forth between a hierarchically formatted page and a page with everything squished together?

Yep.

If you mean "set at five minutes", I disagree, but if you mean "set at five minimum" then I agree.

I meant "five minimum," John, since that was what was suggested.