Oh, I wish those council guys would let me have an hour alone in the room with her, if I was larger and had grenades.

Willow ,'Storyteller'


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P.M. Marc - Nov 11, 2002 7:27:27 pm PST #1416 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Okay then what if the auto-refresh was set at 5 min, & those with itchy trigger fingers & Read New issues could just manually refresh the page?

My logic, such as it is, for the three minute thing, is that mentally, I could deal with a three minute refresh. I might, once or twice, hit f5. Set to five minutes, which seems ages long for some reason, I'd hit f5 about once or twice a minute.

It's a mental issue, like thinks that are 99 cents seeming cheaper by much than things a penny more.


Theodosia - Nov 11, 2002 7:39:23 pm PST #1417 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I just upped mine to 6 minutes. Once the shaking in my hands subsides, I shall move it up to 7.


Jon B. - Nov 11, 2002 7:51:39 pm PST #1418 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Would taking all the whitespace out of the generated HTML help at all? To me, it seems like it might.

The downside is that the pages will be impossible for us coders to read. For the little bit of coding work I've done, the indentations of the code, etc., have been invaluable.


John H - Nov 11, 2002 8:08:59 pm PST #1419 of 10000

pages will be impossible for us coders to read

What do you use, Jon?

My general practice is to use a reformatting tool -- in BBEdit, I reformat into "Hierarchical", which is the kind of layout you've used here, for working on the code. Then if optimisation is required, do it as the last stage before upload.

When I need to work on the page again, I download it and put it back into hierarchical layout again.


esse - Nov 11, 2002 8:28:39 pm PST #1420 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I don't use the refresh. Like Ple said, it's a control issue. Plus, I don't read all the threads, so Read New is useless for me. When I want to check new posts, I hit Message Center to list all the threads over again. Just like hitting Reload when we were at WX. No biggie. S'just a button, or a command.


John H - Nov 11, 2002 8:31:58 pm PST #1421 of 10000

Plus, I don't read all the threads, so Read New is useless for me.

Something tells me you're confused about what Read New does...


P.M. Marc - Nov 11, 2002 8:33:51 pm PST #1422 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Nah. There are threads I subscribe to that I don't read as often as others. Read new would take me to those.

I prefer not to.


§ ita § - Nov 11, 2002 8:37:50 pm PST #1423 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Sounds like SA is confused, though -- SA it only reads the threads you're subscribed to, if you're subscribed to any.

Still might not work for you.


Jon B. - Nov 11, 2002 9:15:20 pm PST #1424 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

What do you use, Jon?

Dreamweaver, mostly.

Are you saying that bbedit can reformat back and forth between a hierarchically formatted page and a page with everything squished together? Because that would be cool.

And for all I know, Dreamweaver can do that too; I've never looked for it...


Jessica - Nov 11, 2002 9:19:44 pm PST #1425 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

IIRC, Dreamweaver has something called "clean up HTML" that will indent and color all the tags for you. (Of course, I haven't used it in years, and so have no actual helpful information.)