It's like an automatic car. It gives me the creeps, gut level. This has been the case with any BBS I've used with a form of RN.
I have control issues.
Okay, um, I'm lost. Uh, I'm angry, and I'm armed, so if you two have something that you need to work out --
Mal ,'War Stories'
Buffistas Building a Better Board
Do you have problems, concerns or recommendations about the technical side of the Phoenix? Air them here. Compliments also welcome.
P.M. Marc - Nov 11, 2002 7:19:57 pm PST #1411 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Hil R. - Nov 11, 2002 7:20:24 pm PST #1412 of 10000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
I don't like the randomness of it. I like to be able to see where I have new messages and then decide which ones I want to read first.
John H - Nov 11, 2002 7:24:02 pm PST #1413 of 10000
Yeah me too. I want to be able to look at all the different threads and see which ones have been active, and how active. I never used "Read New" in the old days on WX either.
I would have to say though, that the Message Centre does add another stage. Are there any new messages? Yes there are. Which shall I read first? Click! Whereas RN just takes you somewhere and you start reading straight away.
Rob's suggestion of optimisation gets the thumbs up from me, too. 17% is a lot.
Burrell - Nov 11, 2002 7:24:06 pm PST #1414 of 10000
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
Okay then what if the auto-refresh was set at 5 min, & those with itchy trigger fingers & Read New issues could just manually refresh the page?
John H - Nov 11, 2002 7:26:13 pm PST #1415 of 10000
5 min
If you mean "set at five minutes", I disagree, but if you mean "set at five minimum" then I agree. If people want to set it longer then of course they should be able to.
P.M. Marc - Nov 11, 2002 7:27:27 pm PST #1416 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Okay then what if the auto-refresh was set at 5 min, & those with itchy trigger fingers & Read New issues could just manually refresh the page?
My logic, such as it is, for the three minute thing, is that mentally, I could deal with a three minute refresh. I might, once or twice, hit f5. Set to five minutes, which seems ages long for some reason, I'd hit f5 about once or twice a minute.
It's a mental issue, like thinks that are 99 cents seeming cheaper by much than things a penny more.
Theodosia - Nov 11, 2002 7:39:23 pm PST #1417 of 10000
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
I just upped mine to 6 minutes. Once the shaking in my hands subsides, I shall move it up to 7.
Jon B. - Nov 11, 2002 7:51:39 pm PST #1418 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Would taking all the whitespace out of the generated HTML help at all? To me, it seems like it might.
The downside is that the pages will be impossible for us coders to read. For the little bit of coding work I've done, the indentations of the code, etc., have been invaluable.
John H - Nov 11, 2002 8:08:59 pm PST #1419 of 10000
pages will be impossible for us coders to read
What do you use, Jon?
My general practice is to use a reformatting tool -- in BBEdit, I reformat into "Hierarchical", which is the kind of layout you've used here, for working on the code. Then if optimisation is required, do it as the last stage before upload.
When I need to work on the page again, I download it and put it back into hierarchical layout again.
esse - Nov 11, 2002 8:28:39 pm PST #1420 of 10000
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!
I don't use the refresh. Like Ple said, it's a control issue. Plus, I don't read all the threads, so Read New is useless for me. When I want to check new posts, I hit Message Center to list all the threads over again. Just like hitting Reload when we were at WX. No biggie. S'just a button, or a command.