I see. All right then, I'll wait until the kinks have been dekinked. And if I've sounded ungrateful, believe me I'm not.
Ben: I didn't ask for any of this. I just want to be normal. Gronx: I wanted to be an underwear model. We play the hand we're dealt.
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Do you have problems, concerns or recommendations about the technical side of the Phoenix? Air them here. Compliments also welcome.
Dai Watkins - Nov 03, 2002 9:30:31 pm PST #1154 of 10000
Jon B. - Nov 03, 2002 9:32:57 pm PST #1155 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Jon -- strlen($tagline) will count the number of characters in the string.
Excellent. Let me work on it (unless someone else wants to...?).
Jon B. - Nov 03, 2002 9:36:21 pm PST #1156 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Anyway, see [link] for the idea in action.
That's sweet, John. Very elegant. Let's just make sure the anti-javascript contingent doesn't have a problem with it, and I'll add it in.
§ ita § - Nov 03, 2002 9:38:25 pm PST #1157 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
As long as nothing depends on the JS (ie, the PHP code still counts the length of the tagline and spits back an error message (which still means a hit on the server, but it's an error -- it should be reported)), I have only the most transparent of principle objections.
Michele T. - Nov 03, 2002 9:39:30 pm PST #1158 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi
The problem with JS tends to be that people use it for actual important functionality, and don't provide alternate methods to do the same thing. This is a minor piece of frippery, and not anything anyone needs to use the board, so although I think JS is a mostly-bad idea, I don't see any problem with this except the question of where it should go on the edit profile screen so it'll be clear and not cluttery.
ETA: ita and I have much the same general sentiments about Javascript, just phrased differently.
John H - Nov 03, 2002 9:39:42 pm PST #1159 of 10000
Let's just make sure the anti-javascript contingent doesn't have a problem with it
The trick is that the button itself is written with JavaScript, so, by definition, anyone who doesn't have JavaScript will never see it.
I haven't tested on Netscape and Mozilla and whatever. What did you look at it with?
Oh, and ita, would anything weird happen on submission of the form, now that it's got a new input? I don't think so, but we could always make it a text/image link, not a button, if that was a factor.
§ ita § - Nov 03, 2002 9:45:15 pm PST #1160 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
John, as long as none of the original elements are altered, the form should be just fine.
Jon B. - Nov 03, 2002 9:48:01 pm PST #1161 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
I don't see any problem with this except the question of where it should go on the edit profile screen so it'll be clear and not cluttery.
I like John's placement on his sample page: [link]
Michele T. - Nov 03, 2002 9:51:58 pm PST #1162 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi
That should work, though you may want to see if we can get the explanatory text closer to the text-entry box to make it clearer what goes with what.
Actually, as I'm typing this, I'm wondering instead about using a button image that more closely resembles the "post message" one. Different sorts of tasks, sure, but a consistency about what a button looks like can be good as well.
John H - Nov 03, 2002 9:54:47 pm PST #1163 of 10000
I just did minor tweaking -- Netscape 2 hated it, so I made it three-and-above only.
If you refresh now Jon, you can see the latest version between "start" and "end" comments for your cut-and-pasting pleasure.