although, the one useful thing about the ep (there is probably more than one, but let's go with one) is that Angela perhaps did have a freak out when Gabriel was born, but her husband wiped her memory clean.

Apart from Elle's crazy-obotomy, how do we get from Nathan the Asst DA prosecuting Linderman to Nathan The Candidate With Fully Functioning Campaign office in the space of what is apparently a couple of days? And WTF makes Nathan think his father committed suicide???

I do wonder if Mama Petrelli was originally the one with the full-on mind powers, but PP stole them and then erased her memory. It would explain a LOT about how she acts around people.

I wasn't paying too close attention to the captions, but it seemed clear that some of that was meant to be intertwined with the premier, and some was meant to be intertwined with the episode "Six Months Earlier." I don't know why people keep saying it was meant to be all consecutive, unless they labeled it wrong. (Which, if they did, is lame.)

But handwaving that away, we know that Arthur "died" six months before the first episode, and that Nathan built his campaign in that time.

I do wonder if Mama Petrelli was originally the one with the full-on mind powers, but PP stole them and then erased her memory. It would explain a LOT about how she acts around people.

Arthur does seem to have some combination of the pusher powers, and it's never explained where they come from (as he seems to steal powers, rather than copy them.) In any case, Linderman clearly states that her memories have been messed with repeatedly.

I don't know why people keep saying it was meant to be all consecutive, unless they labeled it wrong. (Which, if they did, is lame.)

I couldn't follow the timestamps, honestly. "One year earlier" in the beginning is clear. "Six months earlier" halfway through the ep is not - six months earlier than when we just were, or six months earlier than the show's present time?

But it didn't feel to me like there was any time (according to this ep) in between PP's death and HRG getting into Mohinder's cab. Which so obviously and blatantly contradicts the pilot that I'm willing to chalk it up to shitty continuity editing.

Is Heroes only a Fall show this year?

(Futon Critic's winter grid doesn't include Heroes or Chuck.

from my recollection: they were doing Heroes in 2 parts. So I think the second set of eps will start airing in February or so...?

On the whole, much, much improved.

Oh, totally. I enjoyed last night's episode, probably because we only saw Suresh for a head-turn and Claire not at all. Also, all of the stupidity from Present Day Heroes was missing, they killed the criminally-stereotyped African seer (man this show is tough on white-eyeballed folks) and they skipped over what could have been another awful Hiro/hero mission of chasing down Arthur Petrelli.

But it didn't feel to me like there was any time (according to this ep) in between PP's death and HRG getting into Mohinder's cab. Which so obviously and blatantly contradicts the pilot that I'm willing to chalk it up to shitty continuity editing.

Which is what I'm saying. Leaving aside the question of captioning, which, again, may well have been awful) it seems obvious, from the interspersed bits of things we've already seen, that we weren't meant to think all of this was happening at the same time.

"One year earlier" in the beginning is clear. "Six months earlier" halfway through the ep is not - six months earlier than when we just were, or six months earlier than the show's present time?

OK. Granted not terribly clear, but does it matter much? Viewers like us know full well that, say, Nathan's car crash and Claire's train wreck (no, not West) are six months apart, and this story doesn't contradict that. It might be misleading if you've never seen an episode before, but really, if you've never seen an episode, you wouldn't much care.

Granted not terribly clear, but does it matter much?

It matters to me. I don't particularly want to spend my time watching a show which doesn't seem to value competent storytelling. If last night's ep had been executed better, we wouln't have to be having this conversation in the first place.

Somebody remind me, is Eric Roberts' character still alive in the present day timeline? I think it's also a sign of the bad storytelling that I can't remember his character's name, for that matter.