Angel: He is dead. Technically, he's undead. It's a zombie. Connor: What's a zombie? Angel: It's an undead thing. Connor: Like you? Angel: No, zombies are slow-moving, dimwitted things that crave human flesh. Connor: Like you. Angel: No! It's different. Trust me.

'Destiny'


Heroes 1: We Could Be Heroes  

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Frankenbuddha - Dec 04, 2007 6:12:18 pm PST #3354 of 5028
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Shooting Maya like that makes him like any other cold-blooded killer.

As opposed to bashing a guy's head in or stabbing a twin? Sylar should have died in the Plaza, pure and simple.


Laura - Dec 04, 2007 6:15:06 pm PST #3355 of 5028
Our wings are not tired.

Sylar should have died in the Plaza, pure and simple.

Yes, sad but true. I love some Evil Sylar, but this half season he was wasted.


Kate P. - Dec 05, 2007 3:27:36 am PST #3356 of 5028
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Re: Peter (not) walking through walls -- maybe he hasn't remembered yet that he can do that? I seem to recall that he still doesn't remember all of his accumulated powers yet. Although, huh, he did walk through the wall when he and Adam escaped from the facility, right? So, never mind.

Nathaaaaaaaaaaan! Noooooooooo!


victor infante - Dec 05, 2007 3:44:33 am PST #3357 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

maybe he hasn't remembered yet that he can do that? I seem to recall that he still doesn't remember all of his accumulated powers yet. Although, huh, he did walk through the wall when he and Adam escaped from the facility, right? So, never mind.

Well, it's definitely a power he doesn't seem used to -- he definitely seems to lose track of what he can do, and favors certain powers over others, probably because they come more reflexively. Moreover, Adam had every reason not to remind him of the ability, because he wanted to be alone with the virus while Peter "kept guard" -- Peter would have moved to stop him if he saw him try to unleash it. So I can handwave a little.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 05, 2007 5:42:25 am PST #3358 of 5028
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

As opposed to bashing a guy's head in or stabbing a twin? Sylar should have died in the Plaza, pure and simple.

This. It might have spared us the Blunder Twins storyline, and if they ever really needed him back the "President Petrelli" version could have followed Future!Hiro backwards in time and been a great surprise appearance at the end of a cliffhanger.


kat perez - Dec 05, 2007 6:15:10 am PST #3359 of 5028
"We have trust issues." Mylar

I still don't see what the point of the gemelos aburridos was/is. Especially the brother. In the end, she didn't even need him and his powers never evolved beyond an ability to suck up (and withstand) black eye goo. Most useless power ever! Although, now that Sylar's got his ability back, I bet he'd love to eat the pretty twin's brain and become immune to the black eye goo himself. I think Maya has a really good shot of taking him out. She doesn't even have to get that close. She killed the whole damn town from inside that cheater's shack in wherever the hell they were from.

Distance is not lending enchantment about the finale for me. So many contrived moments. Why, why would Matt, Peter and Nathan discuss their plan to expose the company (and their own powers) in the damn security vault? Peter and Matt have been prisoners of the company and Nathan for damn sure knows how dangerous they are. He's been in Tobby's office, for heaven's sake, with all that lovely surveillance equipment! And not one of them thought, "Hmm. Someone's probably watching this vault like a hawk. Maybe this is not the best place to divulge the details of our master plan to bring this place to its knees." Really? HRG goes home to let his family know about the secret deal he made to keep them safe and the first thing is does is . . . not hug Claire? Wuh-huh? The Mo stupid is a given, always, but as soon as you realize that Sylar has escaped, why not have Molly find him for you so that you can try, at least TRY, to reach him before he injects himself with the healing blood. He is still just a normal, killable man and he's wounded! He just got barbecued courtesy of Elle, so that means he can't move very fast. You're telling me that he managed to get out of the company and far enough away to find a junkie free, dark NYC alley so that he could shoot up? And even if he did, Sylar is now alone in a junkie free, dark NYC alley. Take black eye goo girl, park her at the end of the alley, run like hell and have her turn on the waterworks until Sylar is dead, dead, dead. I don't think the company would have any qualms about the collateral damage. Oh, Mo. You really are useless.


beekaytee - Dec 05, 2007 6:30:31 am PST #3360 of 5028
Compassionately intolerant

I like the way your mind works KatP. Of COURSE they could have used Molly to find where Sylar went, rather than sitting together in stupidity. Jeesh, you'd think Elle would have thought of that, if Mo couldn't. Then again, everyone in that room, apart from Molly, is severely broken in some way.

"Hmm. Someone's probably watching this vault like a hawk. Maybe this is not the best place to divulge the details of our master plan to bring this place to its knees."

I had some dim hope of a kevlar vest and squibs as part of some flushing out plan but it died with the sad waning of a match flame in a cyclone.

The MA-NA-PE triumvirate know who all the bad guys are now, but are clearly too simple to avoid them.

I remember Nathan, at least, being much more calculating and clever in the beginning. His earnest, "let's show THEM" action was rash and ill-conceived. I can't believe he didn't have the sense to protect himself.

Okay, the further away from the finale I get, the grumpier I become. Feh.

When you come back SHOW, be prepared for some pretty deft 'splainin' or you'll go the way of Lost...ie. dead to me.


kat perez - Dec 05, 2007 6:52:54 am PST #3361 of 5028
"We have trust issues." Mylar

I remember Nathan, at least, being much more calculating and clever in the beginning.

Exactly. He's a politician for pity's sake! He knows how to be sneaky. And he learned at the feet of the master manipulator herself. Sons of Mama P should not be that stupid. They're not even worthy of her.

Eh. I still enjoyed a lot of things about this mini-season, particularly in the last run of episodes, and I'm nowhere near ready to give up the ghost. Heck, I even enjoyed a lot of things about the finale. The return of the Broyay. Hiro's continued baby steps toward becoming Future!Hiro. Mo and Sylar's "trust issues" were comedy gold. Watching Maya get shot? Priceless. Still love Elle and all her crazy. Sadly, there were way more valleys than peaks this time around.


Ailleann - Dec 05, 2007 6:54:59 am PST #3362 of 5028
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

Sons of Mama P should not be that stupid. They're not even worthy of her.

OH WORD.


Stephanie - Dec 05, 2007 6:56:40 am PST #3363 of 5028
Trust my rage

Thinking of lost, I'm starting to think that part of Joss' genius was following Buffy S1 with S2. Both Lost and Heroes have been a disappointment. Like I said above, I really like the concept of Heroes and the characters, but the story is just not up to par.

Plus, I'm a bit tired of the random people intersecting but the good guys never getting it together. The Nikki/Micah/Monica storyline was completely unrelated to the rest of the story (or not needed) except that Mohinder was carrying the blood for Nikki. I like Micah, but he could have so easily been cut out. What was the point of Uhura anyway? She was in like 2 scenes and did nothing other than be a grandmother.

I'm starting to think that the Heroes staff really hurt themselves by calling this a finale. It would be much better to blame the loose story ends on the writers' strike. "If it weren't for that strike, we would have done such a good job wrapping all this up!"