I'm a vision of hotliness, and how weird is that? Mystical comas. You know, if you can stand the horror of a higher power hijacking your mind and body so that it can give birth to itself, I really recommend 'em.

Cordelia ,'You're Welcome'


Heroes 1: We Could Be Heroes  

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kat perez - Dec 05, 2007 6:52:54 am PST #3361 of 5028
"We have trust issues." Mylar

I remember Nathan, at least, being much more calculating and clever in the beginning.

Exactly. He's a politician for pity's sake! He knows how to be sneaky. And he learned at the feet of the master manipulator herself. Sons of Mama P should not be that stupid. They're not even worthy of her.

Eh. I still enjoyed a lot of things about this mini-season, particularly in the last run of episodes, and I'm nowhere near ready to give up the ghost. Heck, I even enjoyed a lot of things about the finale. The return of the Broyay. Hiro's continued baby steps toward becoming Future!Hiro. Mo and Sylar's "trust issues" were comedy gold. Watching Maya get shot? Priceless. Still love Elle and all her crazy. Sadly, there were way more valleys than peaks this time around.


Ailleann - Dec 05, 2007 6:54:59 am PST #3362 of 5028
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda

Sons of Mama P should not be that stupid. They're not even worthy of her.

OH WORD.


Stephanie - Dec 05, 2007 6:56:40 am PST #3363 of 5028
Trust my rage

Thinking of lost, I'm starting to think that part of Joss' genius was following Buffy S1 with S2. Both Lost and Heroes have been a disappointment. Like I said above, I really like the concept of Heroes and the characters, but the story is just not up to par.

Plus, I'm a bit tired of the random people intersecting but the good guys never getting it together. The Nikki/Micah/Monica storyline was completely unrelated to the rest of the story (or not needed) except that Mohinder was carrying the blood for Nikki. I like Micah, but he could have so easily been cut out. What was the point of Uhura anyway? She was in like 2 scenes and did nothing other than be a grandmother.

I'm starting to think that the Heroes staff really hurt themselves by calling this a finale. It would be much better to blame the loose story ends on the writers' strike. "If it weren't for that strike, we would have done such a good job wrapping all this up!"


beekaytee - Dec 05, 2007 7:00:25 am PST #3364 of 5028
Compassionately intolerant

It would be much better to blame the loose story ends on the writers' strike.

But far worse was printing a story that said basically, 'we hear you and just you wait and see, we are flying right.' Then having the same dumb crap as before.

In some ways, I wish I hadn't read that story because, as I said upthread, I was actively looking for the changes (ah, there goes Maya, they were true to their word...then wtf, was that a bait and switch!)

If I hadn't expected them to regain their glory, as promised, I'd not have had such high hopes.

And truly if they bring Nathan back again (much as I love the character/actor) after another cliffhanger, it is going to become some laughable resurrection show.

I'm spending way too much time thinking about this.


Jon B. - Dec 05, 2007 8:01:19 am PST #3365 of 5028
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

But far worse was printing a story that said basically, 'we hear you and just you wait and see, we are flying right.' Then having the same dumb crap as before.

Didn't that story come out after they'd wrapped the mini-season?


Miracleman - Dec 05, 2007 8:22:05 am PST #3366 of 5028
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I really wanted to like this season. I tried, man...I tried.

But, while I'm not "fuck this"-ing the show, I am disappointed.

Like everyone else here, I was waiting for the Blunder Twins to have a point. I mean, c'mon...the girl can X-Files-black-oil an entire town, right? And falls in love with Sylar, right? I was waiting for Sylar to twist her around, make her happy for her abilities, turn her into his killer-by-proxy until he got his mojo back and then, zappo! Brain soup! Mm-mm good!

Mohinder has become so stupid he's pointless. All he does is provide dumb exposition and excuses for other people to do stuff. Hereon in he shall be known as McGuffin Suresh.

Why kill Nikki/Jessica/Sybil? I liked her. Why keep Monica the Magnificent Mimic? I didn't so much like her. 'course I might've liked her if she had done anything to affect anything outside of Micah.

It felt kinda like Angel S5 in that, by having to "wrap things up" in such a compressed timeframe they abandoned potentially cool stuff, decided not to worry overmuch about making sense and just flailed about until it was over. They also didn't seem to be too concerned about loose ends (Irish Chick; dead? Ceased to exist because the timeline she was trapped in never happened? Wandering around New York City all homeless and going "The fuck? The FUCK?! Spare a dollar, mister?")

I like that Sylar is alive, but wish they'd gone more into why he's such an evil motherfucker. (Mama issues: "Be special, Gabe!" "All right, ma, but I'm gonna have to eat a lot of brains to do it..." "Good boy. Have a tuna fish sandwich.") Instead he came across as evil for evil's sake which BORING!

Too many characters, too many stories, too little time. Add them together and it = "Aw, C'MON! Stop sucking!"


beekaytee - Dec 05, 2007 9:06:31 am PST #3367 of 5028
Compassionately intolerant

Didn't that story come out after they'd wrapped the mini-season?

I have to go back and find it, but I could have sworn a part of it was talking about the wrap-up and how it would rock because they'd found their way again.

As always, MM speaks true.


Polter-Cow - Dec 05, 2007 9:15:53 am PST #3368 of 5028
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I could have sworn a part of it was talking about the wrap-up and how it would rock because they'd found their way again.

Part of it was about how they would be "cleaning house" in the finale...except it was in a section complaining about the new characters, so it was sort of implied they'd be killing off some of those new characters in the finale.


victor infante - Dec 05, 2007 9:39:54 am PST #3369 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Except ... that EW article really was after they'd wrapped or nearly wrapped. I remember reading it along with a bunch of early strike stuff -- it was right before Kring closed up shop to go picket.

And what I think he was referring to was the hypothetical season finale that's coming. It's hard to remember that the episode that just aired was meant to be the end of a chapter, and the middle of the season. There's no way at that point they could have made any real adjustments to the episodes that have at this point aired.


Polter-Cow - Dec 05, 2007 9:44:25 am PST #3370 of 5028
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Hiro could have done something.