Everything looks good from here... Yes. Yes, this is a fertile land, and we will thrive. We will rule over all this land, and we will call it... 'This Land.' I think we should call it 'your grave!' Ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal! Ha ha HA! Mine is an evil laugh! Now die! Oh, no, God! Oh, dear God in heaven!

Wash ,'Serenity'


Heroes 1: We Could Be Heroes  

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tiggy - Oct 16, 2007 5:15:59 am PDT #2258 of 5028
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

more evil in that he now killed someone for just getting in his way and not just for their powers

he's done that before though. he killed Dr. Suresh(senior) and would've killed junior if Peter hadn't shown up.


sumi - Oct 16, 2007 5:19:25 am PDT #2259 of 5028
Art Crawl!!!

Before we talk about the episode itself - the promo: of course, I LOVED IT. Although, I see KB and I think VERONICA MARS!!! But the Heroes audience is 90 bazillion times bigger than VM's audience ever was -- all those Heroes fans who never saw VM saw that promo and were probably all, WTF? Who the hell is that??

I love that Matt is also second generation (from the promo - Matt's ex's baby is a giant. I wonder if s/he is really Matt's?) - and that his dad is EXTRA SCARY. Because Matt just is not at all scary.

Claire's fake out totally had me going too.

I had been spoiled via the tv guide interview with ZQ to the fact that he was going to pair up with lga (los gemelos aburridos). I thought that the forest was all part of the illusion.


Frankenbuddha - Oct 16, 2007 5:30:25 am PDT #2260 of 5028
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

When they had the whole "Gabriel? Like the Angel" exchange, I couldn't help but think, yeah, if this is THE PROPHECY maybe.


Stephanie - Oct 16, 2007 5:49:33 am PDT #2261 of 5028
Trust my rage

he's done that before though. he killed Dr. Suresh(senior) and would've killed junior if Peter hadn't shown up.

I knew there was someone I was forgetting. I guess the killing of the soccer dude just seemed so much more casual than killing Dr. Suresh or Mohinder. Of course, he couldn't kill Mohinder becase he *loves* Mohinder.

eta:

"Gabriel? Like the Angel" exchange, I couldn't help but think, yeah, if this is THE PROPHECY maybe.

That entire scene, including the "Gabriel, we have killers in the car" made me laugh out loud enough that I disturbed my sleeping dogs.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 16, 2007 8:29:52 am PDT #2262 of 5028
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Poor Derek's life turned into that Bud Light commercial with the hitchhiking ax guy and chainsaw guy.


Typo Boy - Oct 16, 2007 8:36:12 am PDT #2263 of 5028
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Wait, did Derek not suspect the twins were killers when he fled the prison with them, leaving dead cops lying on the floor? [on edit] the morning stupids are lasting longer than usual today - that was the point of Matt's joke.


Vonnie K - Oct 16, 2007 8:41:28 am PDT #2264 of 5028
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

Someone on my Flist on LJ said Sylar is planning on 1) finding Mohinder and have Mo "cure" him 2) killing Alejandro and taking his power, thereby 3) taking control of Maya as his personal tool/weapon. Damn, that makes a lot of sense to me logically. I am cranky, because this will mean that we will have weeks and weeks more of Maya crying and being helpless and worse yet, being used as a destructive tool. BAH.

Unless she somehow gains control of her power and turns on Sylar like some vengeful Fury. Which... actually might be the direction they're going. They're laying on Maya's naivite really thick, which I think is their usual unsubtle way of suggesting how her character will change.

Question about the Dawson/Hawkins family tree: I thought Nana Dawson (Nichelle Nichols) is DL's maternal grandma and Micah's great-grandma. There were some people calling Nana Dawson Micah's gran, which is wrong since we met Mrs. Hawkins last year, but others are wondering whether Nana Dawson might be DL's aunt/mother's sister, but... I don't know. Nichols is in her 70's and DL at most was supposed to be in his early 30's. Seems more likely that she's his grandmother than an aunt.

On the other hand, Monica's Heroes wiki page says she's DL's niece and Micah's first cousin, which I can't quite make work with the above theory. I thought DL got his power through his mother's side because the name on the title card was "Dawson", not "Hawkins", but if Monica's his niece, then DL must have had siblings. Then Monica's mother who died in the storm might have been DL's sister...?

I'm so confused. I need to draw a freakin' genealogy chart or something.

t edited to remove a potentially spoilery info


Typo Boy - Oct 16, 2007 8:44:59 am PDT #2265 of 5028
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Well in spite of Maya's naivete, she has already shown she is willing to use her power consciously to kill, and use it to kill reasonably innocent people, even though she sobbed afterwards. She seems to be a practitioner of what the Israelis call "shoot and cry".


victor infante - Oct 16, 2007 9:01:34 am PDT #2266 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Then Monica's mother who died in the storm might have been DL's sister...?

She would indeed have been. There's a black woman (I'm not saying African-American, because she may well not have been American at all) in the ElderHeroes group picture. She doesn't appear to be Uhura, but that doesn't mean it may not be a relative of some sort.

Well in spite of Maya's naivete, she has already shown she is willing to use her power consciously to kill, and use it to kill reasonably innocent people, even though she sobbed afterwards. She seems to be a practitioner of what the Israelis call "shoot and cry".

Y'know, despite the crying, she's got some backbone. Aside fromt he fact that she's on a perilous quest here, she did go back for her brother, despite the risks. I think there's some depth there, but we need to see it soon.

That being said, I do like that, despite the "Latinos crossing the broder" stereotype, neither Maya nor Alejandro are illiterate (as evidenced by PapaSuresh's omnipresent book, and Maya at least speaks English. (And Alejandro seems to speak more than he lets on, probably so he can be more clued in to what's going on around him than people suspect.)

It's not my favorite storyline, but frankly, it's starting to show some possibilities.


tiggy - Oct 16, 2007 10:06:37 am PDT #2267 of 5028
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Wait, did Derek not suspect the twins were killers when he fled the prison with them, leaving dead cops lying on the floor

to be fair, the cops weren't dead any more than Derek was at that point. when Alejandra absorbed her "power" or whatever, it brought Derek and the cops back to life. so there was no reason for him to think Maya and Alejandro were killers.