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sumi - Oct 10, 2007 5:40:55 am PDT #2091 of 5028
Art Crawl!!!

Well, could there have been two daughters but one died in such a traumatic event (trauma to both) that the split that developed in Nikki's personality took on the persona of her sister?


Dana - Oct 10, 2007 5:41:26 am PDT #2092 of 5028
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

The fact that Jessica actually existed doesn't exclude the possibility that Niki has a split personality.


Hayden - Oct 10, 2007 6:00:40 am PDT #2093 of 5028
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Yeah, they had the dad tell Jessica that she was dead, and Niki went to her grave. But Dana's right that this doesn't negate the split personality theory. I think they're going with the split personality as a power, though, what with Peter talking about how much he wanted to Darth Vader the Irish guy to death and then camera showing the godsend tattoo disappearing from his arm.


victor infante - Oct 10, 2007 6:01:28 am PDT #2094 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

There were two daughters. One died, at the hands of their father's abuse, and the other developed a multiple personality -- which happens to have the same name as her sister, although the real Jessica was young when she died, so it's doubtful the personalities are similar at this point.

Adopting the persona of a dead sibling -- one who was seen as a "protector" -- strikes me as not unreasonable for a personality that emerges to "protect" the real person. Indeed, without looking it up, I'd be amazed if it's unprecedented.


amych - Oct 10, 2007 6:02:50 am PDT #2095 of 5028
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Indeed, without looking it up, I'd be amazed if it's unprecedented.

Agreed - it practically feels trope-ish to me.


tiggy - Oct 10, 2007 6:06:07 am PDT #2096 of 5028
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

i'm not negating that Niki has multiple personality disorder. just that Niki and Jessica weren't always one and the same, which is how i understood Jon's post.

the writers definitely need to spell out her powers a bit more specifically if we're all still this confused about them though...


victor infante - Oct 10, 2007 6:07:12 am PDT #2097 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I think they're going with the split personality as a power, though

I'll admit there's something up with the tattoo, but I sincerely doubt that the MPD is in any way a manifestation of Nikki's powers. The fact that she can have them when Jessica's not driving seems to give credence to the idea that they're not directly tied to the personality, and she seems to be able to turn them on and off (meaning she's not super strong all the time. She has to make a conscious -- or at least subconscious -- effort to become strong.) The MPD is a trait of her character, and -- as is often the case with MPDs -- it probably kept her alive through adversity, but ultimately it's a tool that the whole person needs to discard, because it's outlived its udefulness and become destructive.

Peter's situation is different. He's probably got a lot of emotional damage going on, which continues to exist, amnesia or no. When he was given a chance to lash out, he did. And has probably needed to since he blew up.


Hayden - Oct 10, 2007 6:15:16 am PDT #2098 of 5028
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Victor's theory requires a bit of nuance on the part of the writers, which isn't really the show's forte.


Jon B. - Oct 10, 2007 6:15:24 am PDT #2099 of 5028
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

i'm not negating that Niki has multiple personality disorder. just that Niki and Jessica weren't always one and the same, which is how i understood Jon's post.

I should have clarified, sorry. Like everyone else has said, there was a real Jessica. Another Jessica. But there's no "possession" or other supernatural/superpowered thing going on. The "Jessica" that is/was within Niki, is NOT the same Jessica that was her sister. It's just a manifestation of her psychosis.


amych - Oct 10, 2007 6:16:32 am PDT #2100 of 5028
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Gotcha, Jon -- I also misread you as saying that Jessica had never existed, but as it turns out, I agree with you that she doesn't exist now.