Could just be a hoax, though. I fake some headaches, everyone gets used to poor helpless Spike. Then one day, no warning, I snap a spine, bend a head back, drain 'em dry. Brilliant.

Spike ,'Potential'


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tiggy - Oct 10, 2007 6:06:07 am PDT #2096 of 5028
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

i'm not negating that Niki has multiple personality disorder. just that Niki and Jessica weren't always one and the same, which is how i understood Jon's post.

the writers definitely need to spell out her powers a bit more specifically if we're all still this confused about them though...


victor infante - Oct 10, 2007 6:07:12 am PDT #2097 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I think they're going with the split personality as a power, though

I'll admit there's something up with the tattoo, but I sincerely doubt that the MPD is in any way a manifestation of Nikki's powers. The fact that she can have them when Jessica's not driving seems to give credence to the idea that they're not directly tied to the personality, and she seems to be able to turn them on and off (meaning she's not super strong all the time. She has to make a conscious -- or at least subconscious -- effort to become strong.) The MPD is a trait of her character, and -- as is often the case with MPDs -- it probably kept her alive through adversity, but ultimately it's a tool that the whole person needs to discard, because it's outlived its udefulness and become destructive.

Peter's situation is different. He's probably got a lot of emotional damage going on, which continues to exist, amnesia or no. When he was given a chance to lash out, he did. And has probably needed to since he blew up.


Hayden - Oct 10, 2007 6:15:16 am PDT #2098 of 5028
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Victor's theory requires a bit of nuance on the part of the writers, which isn't really the show's forte.


Jon B. - Oct 10, 2007 6:15:24 am PDT #2099 of 5028
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

i'm not negating that Niki has multiple personality disorder. just that Niki and Jessica weren't always one and the same, which is how i understood Jon's post.

I should have clarified, sorry. Like everyone else has said, there was a real Jessica. Another Jessica. But there's no "possession" or other supernatural/superpowered thing going on. The "Jessica" that is/was within Niki, is NOT the same Jessica that was her sister. It's just a manifestation of her psychosis.


amych - Oct 10, 2007 6:16:32 am PDT #2100 of 5028
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Gotcha, Jon -- I also misread you as saying that Jessica had never existed, but as it turns out, I agree with you that she doesn't exist now.


tiggy - Oct 10, 2007 6:17:14 am PDT #2101 of 5028
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

yep, i think we're all pretty much in agreement.


Hayden - Oct 10, 2007 6:21:24 am PDT #2102 of 5028
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Just to be clear, I also don't think that Jessica, Niki's sister, possessed her or anything. But I'm guessing that when the show's creators had Peter choke a guy telekinetically just like Darth Vader, that wasn't an accident, but a visual clue that he absorbed two powers from Niki: super-strength and an evil (well, overly self-interested, which is pretty close to evil) alternate personality.


Dana - Oct 10, 2007 6:21:44 am PDT #2103 of 5028
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Deader than a Norwegian Blue parrot.


victor infante - Oct 10, 2007 6:22:15 am PDT #2104 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Victor's theory requires a bit of nuance on the part of the writers, which isn't really the show's forte.

Well ... there is that. But it's not so much nuance as it's pretty much how MPD works. With, of course, superpowered twists. I think it's fascinating how the fact that Nikki has both multiple personalities and superpowers has led many viewers to automatically assume they're connected, when really, a real-world (ish) explanation exists for at least one of the two. MPDs aren't common, but they're somewhat more common than being posessed by spirits.

yep, i think we're all pretty much in agreement.

And now, the writers will decide that Jessica is really the ghost of her sister after all.


Jon B. - Oct 10, 2007 6:35:14 am PDT #2105 of 5028
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

a visual clue that he absorbed two powers from Niki: super-strength and an evil (well, overly self-interested, which is pretty close to evil) alternate personality.

Really? IMO, it was played very different from an alternate personality. It's not like Peter wasn't aware of what he'd done when he was overly self-interested. Remember, Niki had no memory of Jessica's actions. I think his emotions just got the better of him. That, combined with the fact that he can't control his powers yet.