Yes, it's terribly simple. The good guys are always stalwart and true, the bad guys are easily distinguished by their pointy horns or black hats, and, uh, we always defeat them and save the day. No one ever dies, and everybody lives happily ever after.

Giles ,'Conversations with Dead People'


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amych - Oct 10, 2007 6:16:32 am PDT #2100 of 5028
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Gotcha, Jon -- I also misread you as saying that Jessica had never existed, but as it turns out, I agree with you that she doesn't exist now.


tiggy - Oct 10, 2007 6:17:14 am PDT #2101 of 5028
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

yep, i think we're all pretty much in agreement.


Hayden - Oct 10, 2007 6:21:24 am PDT #2102 of 5028
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Just to be clear, I also don't think that Jessica, Niki's sister, possessed her or anything. But I'm guessing that when the show's creators had Peter choke a guy telekinetically just like Darth Vader, that wasn't an accident, but a visual clue that he absorbed two powers from Niki: super-strength and an evil (well, overly self-interested, which is pretty close to evil) alternate personality.


Dana - Oct 10, 2007 6:21:44 am PDT #2103 of 5028
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Deader than a Norwegian Blue parrot.


victor infante - Oct 10, 2007 6:22:15 am PDT #2104 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Victor's theory requires a bit of nuance on the part of the writers, which isn't really the show's forte.

Well ... there is that. But it's not so much nuance as it's pretty much how MPD works. With, of course, superpowered twists. I think it's fascinating how the fact that Nikki has both multiple personalities and superpowers has led many viewers to automatically assume they're connected, when really, a real-world (ish) explanation exists for at least one of the two. MPDs aren't common, but they're somewhat more common than being posessed by spirits.

yep, i think we're all pretty much in agreement.

And now, the writers will decide that Jessica is really the ghost of her sister after all.


Jon B. - Oct 10, 2007 6:35:14 am PDT #2105 of 5028
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

a visual clue that he absorbed two powers from Niki: super-strength and an evil (well, overly self-interested, which is pretty close to evil) alternate personality.

Really? IMO, it was played very different from an alternate personality. It's not like Peter wasn't aware of what he'd done when he was overly self-interested. Remember, Niki had no memory of Jessica's actions. I think his emotions just got the better of him. That, combined with the fact that he can't control his powers yet.


victor infante - Oct 10, 2007 6:43:17 am PDT #2106 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I think people are starting to win me over to another hypothesis, at least for argument's sake. If you look at the symbol appearing/disappearing on Nikki/ikkiN and appearing briefly on Peter, and take into account the twisted reflection of Nathan we briefly saw (which in many ways recalled ikkiN in the mirror, although more grotesque) than I'll concede, it is possible there's an evil force possessing our dysfunctional heroes from time to time, but I'd suspect it to be an outside force, and not a manifestation of Nikki's powers. Which means it might have been influencing Nikki all along. Can anyone say Nightmare Man? I mean, besides Molly?


Hayden - Oct 10, 2007 6:49:43 am PDT #2107 of 5028
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Good call! I like this theory. Although we should wonder where they're going with it if Kyle MacLaughlin shows up to eat some pie.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 10, 2007 7:09:57 am PDT #2108 of 5028
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

It's too bad Frank Silva is no longer among us... something along the lines of Parkman or an astrally-projecting Peter meeting up with Bob would be great.

Anyone figure that Peter going critical mass overloaded his copy of Ted's powers and he no longer possesses that particular set of abilities?


victor infante - Oct 10, 2007 7:14:43 am PDT #2109 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Good call! I like this theory.

I've got to admit, it has a lot going for it. It allows them to make Nathan the hero-killer without destroying the character, and possibly even absolves Nikki of ikkiN's crimes.