P-C, I was thinking about your biodata while trapped in neverending traffic on the Bay Bridge earlier today

You're the sweetest.

None of it is going to be totally arranged out of the blue without the two of you even ever meeting in the flesh and getting a chance to back out, is it?

No, I do get veto power. And I don't want to waste my time vetoing girls for two years.

Because I can imagine someone a little stiff and extremely wedded to tradition (maybe someone a bit like a younger version of your parents) and her parents reading a P-C's-mom-approved biodata sheet, and then meeting the actual you, finding him strange and offputting, and backing off feeling vaguely cheated and lied to. And I can see someone who would get you, and the parents who get her, reading a P-C's-mom-approved biodata sheet, feeling like that's just the sort of stiff dullish young man they can't see their daughter being happy with, and skipping right past you.

Oh, wow, thanks for putting it in those terms. I think that may help make things clear to her.

Oh, who am I kidding. This is never going to work. They're always right, and I'm always wrong, and I'm always right, and they're always wrong.

Much ~ma to Ben and you, Cindy.

P-C, I have been thinking about you all day today, and wishing I had something good to say. Many wise things have already been said. You are being a good dutiful son in honoring your mother's wishes in cooperating with her plan. You are not being rebellious or heedless. You are simply honoring your own needs and wishes in conjunction with hers.

Oh, who am I kidding. This is never going to work. They're always right, and I'm always wrong, and I'm always right, and they're always wrong.

But JZ's advice? Really good. And maybe she'll listen a little and you won't have to spend years vetoing obviously wrong for you women. Maybe just eighteen months.

P-C. that's black and white thinkikng and won't get you anywhere. They THINK they're right. They will always thinkt hey're tight, but so what? The point is to get them to do what you want, not to think like you. I think marshalling arguments in favor of running your biodata your way is the way to go. Maybe offering to do it your way for a year and if it deosn't work trying her way will do it--especially if you tell her the alternative is not to do it at all.

I like Robin's plan, and JZ's plan, and there was some Hec goodness posted earlier. Frankly, I'm just cheering everyone, most including you, PC. You can do this.

Yes, I am the queen of the respiratory infection.

And Karl too! Whee! Finally, relatives I like.

I just read that this is now the conceptual age, and creative thinkers are in highest demand. I thought of all of you (and me) and shouted, which disturbed the dog, husband and children. Oops.

Tep! How do you make apple whatsis (crumble?) in the crock pot? Until my oven is fixed, we are sadly bakeless.

Cindy, I'm sorry you've had such a craptastic weekend. I hope things get better for all of you very quickly.

We have a terrible weather day tomorrow. No school! That means we may actually get to sleep in tomorrow morning.

I've skipped. I've skimmed, big time.

You missed photos.

I hope Ben improves soon, and things settle down.

The point is to get them to do what you want, not to think like you.

As per usual, Robin is brilliant. This, this, this.

I think marshalling arguments in favor of running your biodata your way is the way to go. Maybe offering to do it your way for a year and if it doesn't work trying her way will do it--especially if you tell her the alternative is not to do it at all.

This, too. What scrappy said x 10,000.

I just got home a bit ago.

It's -15 F.

Predictions are for decreasing temps.

I fear Andi may leave me for this.

OTOH? Snuggling!

Robin wants me to invest in some larger testicles.

On the upside, that will make me more appealing to women.

But would it be ok to put on your biodata?

{{Cass}}, {{Cindy and clan}}

{{P-C}} You know, this may be silly, but your story reminds me a bit of Bride and Prejudice.