May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


Spike's Bitches 34: They're All Slime and Antlers  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Nora Deirdre - Jan 17, 2007 7:48:18 am PST #1266 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

At my off-site last week, one of my co-workers was talking about the fact that she didn't want to have kids, and another one seemed almost offended by the notion.

Do these people who think that those who choose not to have children are judging them who have or otherwise invalidating their choice to have children? I do not get why people get so het up about other people's choices. Then again, these are probably the same people who think that Teh Gays getting married it will ruin it for the rest of us.

Not to say I haven't run into Assholeriffic Child-FREE folks. @@ Assholes are assholes, regardless of parental status, I guess.


Scrappy - Jan 17, 2007 7:49:49 am PST #1267 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

One good thing about getting married at age 50? No "having kids" questions.


Fred Pete - Jan 17, 2007 7:50:03 am PST #1268 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Co-Worker B said, "You don't know that!"

For starters, A would know far better than B does.

Sorry. B just hit one of my peeviest pet peeves there.


Scrappy - Jan 17, 2007 7:50:10 am PST #1269 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Jessica - Jan 17, 2007 7:52:01 am PST #1270 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Assholes are assholes, regardless of parental status

Yup. There's far too much asshattery in the world to be confined to a single viewpoint.

[eta: Though I will say that, IME, "So, when are you having kids?" is a more socially acceptable form of presumptive nosiness than the other way around.]


beekaytee - Jan 17, 2007 7:54:26 am PST #1271 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

I've gotten the "You are selfish for not having kids" argument.

It was a head scratcher for a long time until I realized that I was being selfish for not sharing in this particular mom's misery. Her kids are great...some of the best...but she's just the miserable type. So, my choosing not to have kids appeared to be making a statement about her choice, I guess.

eta: Huge apologies for the weird bolding. I thought I'd fixed the tag and then had to run out to see a client. Yikes. I hate committing that kind of faux pas.


DavidS - Jan 17, 2007 7:54:51 am PST #1272 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think there's still a strong cultural bias that contends that Parenthood is the right and natural role of adulthood. That people that don't choose it are selfish or immature or something.

I don't hold to that theory, but I think it's entrenched.

I do think that some people are so surprised by their experience of parenthood - in ways that they couldn't have anticipated - that they get shirty about people who decline to have children.

Bottom line: people should be respectful and not assholes.

In Cancer News:

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ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- Cancer deaths in the United States have dropped for a second straight year, confirming that a corner has been turned in the war on cancer.

After a decline of 369 deaths from 2002 to 2003, the decrease from 2003 to 2004 was 3,014 -- or more than eight times greater, according to a review of U.S. death certificates by the American Cancer Society.

The drop from 2002 to 2003 was the first annual decrease in total cancer deaths since 1930. But the decline was slight, and experts were hesitant to say whether it was a cause for celebration or just a statistical fluke.

The trend seems to be real, Cancer Society officials said.

"It's not only continuing. The decrease in the second year is much larger," said Ahmedin Jemal, a researcher at the organization.

Cancer deaths dropped to 553,888 in 2004, down from 556,902 in 2003 and 557,271 in 2002, the Cancer Society found.

Experts are attributing the success to declines in smoking and to earlier detection and more effective treatment of tumors. Those have caused a fall in the death rates for breast, prostate and colorectal cancer -- three of the most common cancers. (Watch a Harlem doctor's fight to care for poor women )


Jessica - Jan 17, 2007 7:56:26 am PST #1273 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

war on cancer

When I'm Queen of Everything, I shall decree that the phrase "war on X" be banned unless it is referring to an ACTUAL WAR. t /pet peeve


erikaj - Jan 17, 2007 7:57:46 am PST #1274 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Generally, I assume people have their reasons. But the weird thing is, I don't have to ask nosy questions...people unpack their baggage in front of me all the time. I'm not sure why.


amych - Jan 17, 2007 7:58:20 am PST #1275 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

declares War On Jessica's Dangerous Campaign To Be Queen Of Everything