Allyson, to me "subhuman" is an extremely loaded word. If you'd just said that Zoe had behaved in such a way as to not to deserve the respect and politeness ordinarily accorded to a Buffista, I wouldn't be having nearly as strong a reaction.
I mean, let's say you did kill us. Or didn't. There could be torture. Whatever. But somehow you found the goods. What would your cut be?
Mal ,'Out Of Gas'
Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
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Susan W. - Apr 14, 2003 4:51:51 pm PDT #9976 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights
Allyson - Apr 14, 2003 4:53:46 pm PDT #9977 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Or for reasons totally unrelated to the above?
Reasons totally unrelated. I am aware that you're poking me, BTW. It doesn't actually hurt.
Laura - Apr 14, 2003 4:54:11 pm PDT #9978 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.
I understand your feelings Allyson, and I understand the community standards (I think). I appreciate that you have explained yourself and I appreciate that you have shown your respect for the community by agreeing to not kickbe rude to Zoe in the future.
bitterchick - Apr 14, 2003 4:56:33 pm PDT #9979 of 10001
Paul, I think Allyson explained the other day why she has more or less stopped posting here: Allyson "Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier" Apr 12, 2003 5:54:47 pm EDT
askye - Apr 14, 2003 4:56:51 pm PDT #9980 of 10001
Thrive to spite them
askye - Apr 14, 2003 4:58:31 pm PDT #9981 of 10001
Thrive to spite them
Never mind that was uncalled for.
bitterchick - Apr 14, 2003 5:01:32 pm PDT #9982 of 10001
Oh but see, I was going to agree with you, askye.
I have definitely felt a sense that "this person who seems to be causing trouble" is more important than the dozen or more posters who have an issue with that poster. I'm not sure why that is. But then again, I got into it over Schmoker for reasons that had nothing to do with Schmoker himself so maybe I'm missing the bigger picture here.
PaulJ - Apr 14, 2003 5:03:04 pm PDT #9983 of 10001
Reasons totally unrelated. I am aware that you're poking me, BTW. It doesn't actually hurt.
Funny. I responded in the first place because I was feeling poked by you.
The sequence of events in the last few posts, as I saw them, was:
- Allyson (you, since you're here) post about Zoe in terms that several people here have considered inflammatory.
- One person says that she would like you to apologize. You say that you won't.
- Another person (micole) asks you to stop.
- You refuse to do so, and claim that the language that you've been using in the last posts is just "honesty". You also drop as an aside that your respect for the community is waning.
That's how I saw it from where I'm standing... but then again, getting into a discussion about who is feeling poked by the other is probably useless.
PaulJ - Apr 14, 2003 5:05:59 pm PDT #9984 of 10001
Cereal:
bitterchick, I'll just say that IMO, it's really shocking that after 3+ days of discussion, the only thing that That Problematic Person has gotten has been an "unofficial" warning. I also said before that the problem here isn't the procedures, but the lack of willingness of the board as a whole to actually follow through them when there's a problematic person.
Allyson - Apr 14, 2003 5:11:45 pm PDT #9985 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Allyson (you, since you're here) post about Zoe in terms that several people herehave considered inflammatory.
One person says that she would like you to apologize. You say that you won't.
Another person (micole) asks you to stop.
You refuse to do so, and claim that the language that you've been using in the last posts is just "honesty". You also drop as an aside that your respect for the community is waning.
We're talking about why I did something, many moons ago, because YOU brought it up.
I didn't feel that Lyra deserved an apology, and certainly not one I didn't mean.
I don't feel as though I should have to stop discussing, simply because Micole asked me to stop.
Or, I could just tell you to stop discussing my actions that several people have already said were done, way back when, and all's over, now.
As a member of the community, it should be of interest that my respect for the community is waning, if my opinion is valued.