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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Allyson - Apr 14, 2003 3:18:43 pm PDT #9963 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

The "subhuman" comment is, I think, borderline, and I'd like you
to apologize for it.

But I'm not going to do that.


bitterchick - Apr 14, 2003 3:19:31 pm PDT #9964 of 10001

Like Sartre, only longer

I'm still loving this. And yes, Like Minear, only bloodier for B3.


Laura - Apr 14, 2003 3:24:40 pm PDT #9965 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

And yes, Like Minear, only bloodier for B3.

And may it be years before it is needed.


Jessica - Apr 14, 2003 3:25:30 pm PDT #9966 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

And may it be years before it is needed.

Amen!


Lyra Jane - Apr 14, 2003 3:28:52 pm PDT #9967 of 10001
Up with the sun

So don't, Allyson. I'm not your mommy -- I'm not going to follow you around and make you say the magic words. My investment in this really isn't that great.


Cindy - Apr 14, 2003 3:30:02 pm PDT #9968 of 10001
Nobody

Like Sartre, only longer

It's the only logical choice.


Micole - Apr 14, 2003 4:09:11 pm PDT #9969 of 10001
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

Allyson, I find that your continued insulting of Zoe and continued bragging about enacting vigilantism is divisive and unpleasant. Please stop.


Allyson - Apr 14, 2003 4:18:25 pm PDT #9970 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Allyson, I find that your continued insulting of Zoe and continued bragging about enacting vigilantism is divisive and unpleasant. Please stop.

I dont understand this "bragging" bullshit. I'm being honest about what happened, don't feel wrong, and refuse to fucking cower in a corner about it. I'm also sickened by our need to be polite to Zoe, who doesnt give a shit about any of us.


Deena - Apr 14, 2003 4:19:09 pm PDT #9971 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Allsyon, my apologies for talking about you instead of to you, just my take on this. FWIW, I think it was an awful thing to say, though I did think, when I first read it, before she explained, that she meant it kindly (color me naive). Nevertheless, when Allyson was called on it, she apologized -- I don't think it matters what her motives were, she followed the rules. If it hadn't been brought up here and now, I don't think she would have mentioned it again. Since it was brought up as a warnable offense, she explained herself again. She explained her feelings and why she did it. I don't really see that as bragging. Maybe this is still naive. I don't think so. I see it more as being willing to own up to her actions and I think, whatever we think of her actions or her beliefs regarding those actions, the fact that she's willing to tell us the feelings behind them because she was asked as well as apologize, not only then but also again if it caused the community harm, is laudable. I think when everyone else drops it, it'll drop.


Micole - Apr 14, 2003 4:32:15 pm PDT #9972 of 10001
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

I'm not asking you to polite to Zoe. I'm asking you to be polite to me and the other posters who feel like calling someone "subhuman" is a different and worse thing than criticizing their behavior.

Edited to add: I'm going to be away from the computer for a while; I'm not going to be ignoring any responding posts, just not here for a bit.