Right. I'm against anonymous complaints again. Because it puts onus on the Stompies, and blindsides everybody -- including the bystanders, who might have a contribution to make, if only they hadn't been left out of the loop. Maybe it's painful and scary to be totally on-the-record, for events which will be, you know, on-the-record, but it's the only ethical thing to do.
It's called a blaster, Will, a word that tends to discourage experimentation. Now, if it were called the Orgasmater, I'd be the first to try your basic button press approach.
Xander ,'Get It Done'
Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
Nutty - Apr 14, 2003 12:18:06 pm PDT #9798 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Michele T. - Apr 14, 2003 12:18:32 pm PDT #9799 of 10001
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi
I don't think airing complaints here is a good idea. I think it leads to pile-ons. I think there should be a separate e-mail address for such complaints to go to. Otherwise, I find the stepped process a fine one.
askye - Apr 14, 2003 12:19:29 pm PDT #9800 of 10001
Thrive to spite them
Lyra, you really think that
1) there are groups of 10 that are going to try and push people out of Buffistas on a regular basis
and
2) if it looked like a group of people with a grudge against 1 person were trying to force someone out that the admins would allow that?
Dana - Apr 14, 2003 12:20:02 pm PDT #9801 of 10001
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."
I don't think airing complaints here is a good idea. I think it leads to pile-ons. I think there should be a separate e-mail address for such complaints to go to.
If it's done by e-mail, people will complain about the process being secretive. It'll happen. I know it will.
Jessica - Apr 14, 2003 12:20:09 pm PDT #9802 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
All I'm saying is that we need more than just a 10-people-complained-official-warning-time criteria. There are other considerations.
And I want to know what you think they are. From my perspective, the only quantifiable element in a situation like this is how many people are hurt.
Consuela - Apr 14, 2003 12:20:17 pm PDT #9803 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
but there are people who will insult you whenever you enter a conversation, send you nasty emails, and generally make it no fun for you to be part of a community. I wouldn't say "yes, X deserves a warning" if X was like this, because frankly, life is nicer if you're low on X's radar.
Lyra Jane, if someone, veteran or not -- particularly a veteran who should know better -- is behaving in such a manner, it's the duty of every member of the community to speak up.
If you feel that someone is abusing you in this way, say something.
Now, I haven't noticed such behavior but then I'm not in all the threads. If we want to have an unmoderated board then what that means is we all become the moderators, and we're all responsible for maintaining the community standards. We can't hand the responsibility off to ita or the other Stompies, and if one person is offended regularly, chances are others are too.
Speak up.
§ ita § - Apr 14, 2003 12:20:21 pm PDT #9804 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I think it leads to pile-ons.
Can we define pile-ons? Is it more than a number of people agreeing about something?
Allyson - Apr 14, 2003 12:20:40 pm PDT #9805 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
No, but there are people who will insult you whenever you enter a conversation,send you nasty emails, and generally make it no fun for you to be part of a community. I wouldn't say "yes, X deserves a warning" if X was like this, because frankly, life is nicer if you're low on X's radar.
There are people who do this that are Buffistas? Because that is harassment, yo.
Lyra Jane - Apr 14, 2003 12:21:03 pm PDT #9806 of 10001
Up with the sun
I dunno if I'm one of the bullies you are referring to, Lyra Jane.
Huh? No. No one here is.
I'm probaby being melodramatic, but I did pretty much leave a forum recently because I bitched at/about someone and she decided I was The Biggest Idiot in the World and made it pretty much impossible for me to participate in discussions without being reminded I was TBIitW. And I don't want to institute a process that would lead to that for other people.
msbelle - Apr 14, 2003 12:21:16 pm PDT #9807 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
Nutty "Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier" Apr 14, 2003 2:12:30 pm EDT
agree.
I need to state a huge love-on I have for theodosia and Kat.
If someone irritates a number of people (insert your number here) and they've been asked to modify posting behavior repeatedly to no avail - Do we do anything about it?
Yes.