I'll just jump in my time machine, go back to the twelfth century, and ask the vampires to postpone their ancient prophesy for a few days while you take in dinner and a show.

Giles ,'Selfless'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


§ ita § - Apr 13, 2003 9:44:00 am PDT #9537 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I just closed NAFDA, and am in the process of shutting down most of the threads in Main, but not all, since there's IMPORTANT DISCUSSION to happen there.


victor infante - Apr 13, 2003 10:24:05 am PDT #9538 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Wow, victor. Like some chaos with your anarchy, do you? All that and ferrets. I wouldn't have pried into your reasons, if it weren't for the simultaneity with jengod that made me curious.

For me at least, I think Jengod and I both wanting to stop made it a little easier. The job's more time-intensive than you'd think, and it demands a lot of attention, which, frankly, I ain't got right now.

Victor, you're officially the good twin. Other than failing to bake bread and running a stupid fan site, I ain't doing SQUAT.

Yet strangely, I'm still broke. Go figure.

The problem with all the "talking it out" is not that it gets repetitious, but that it gets nasty.

True, and I think that's a symptom of frustration. We're really good at discussing our feelings. We're not, collectively, good at taking action.


DCJensen - Apr 13, 2003 10:59:16 am PDT #9539 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

And - from voter turnout - say 100 dedicated, or frequent, posters.

And maybe a few of us who simply procrastinated on the voting because it always seemed to be getting modified and we missed the final final trulio final this is really it final voting.

I'm just saying voter turnout does not necessarily translate into dedication or frequency of posts.

ETA: Too Minnesotan. Bracketed I guesses removed from around last sentance.


Jessica - Apr 13, 2003 11:45:28 am PDT #9540 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I threadsucked both B'cy and Press just now to see if any conclusion had been come to regarding posting announcements of warnings/suspensions/bannings in Press, and, as I suspected, none had.

Personally, I think it's worth posting any Stompy Notices in Press, not as any kind of public flogging for the Stompee, but just to help these conversations end when they're over. Seeing "Buffistina Monkeypants has recieved the following Official Stompy Foot notice: blah blah noticecakes" in Press would let people know that the decision had been reached, and action taken without having to wade through all 300+ posts in here.


bitterchick - Apr 13, 2003 11:50:24 am PDT #9541 of 10001

since there's IMPORTANT DISCUSSION to happen there.

And you have a response in there.


Burrell - Apr 13, 2003 12:47:50 pm PDT #9542 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

"Buffistina Monkeypants has recieved the following Official Stompy Foot notice: blah blah noticecakes"

Oh dear, what did my baby do now?


Fay - Apr 13, 2003 12:55:51 pm PDT #9543 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Personally, I think it's worth posting any Stompy Notices in Press, not as any kind of public flogging for the Stompee, but just to help these conversations end when they're over. Seeing "Buffistina Monkeypants has recieved the following Official Stompy Foot notice: blah blah noticecakes" in Press would let people know that the decision had been reached, and action taken without having to wade through all 300+ posts in here.

This would be satisfying for people who were irritated Buffistina Monkeypants, and it would save them time wading through the posts here, but I can't see any way for it NOT to be effectively a public flogging. If someone is particularly irritated by a particular poster but hasn't the time to wade through Kafka to check whether any action has been taken, it would take only a moment to email a Stompy and ask. Or even to ask a Stompy if you bump into them in any given thread, for that matter. But pinning up notices saying Buffistina got an Official Warning is pretty much humiliating Buffistina. If we're saying "Yeah, it would be a public flogging but Buffistina's got it coming at this point" then that's one thing, and you can make an argument for it - and I might be convinced, because obviously I do agree that the good of the community is v. important. But I think it's a touch disingenous to ignore the punitive connotations such a notice would have.

Of course, I'm coming at this from a woolly liberal point of view, wanting to give people the benefit of the doubt and try to help them fit in blah blah blah supportivecakes. (I realise that this may make some people want to slap me, but I haven't wholly embraced my InnerSnape yet. Give me time.)

Would it be fair to say that the Stompy Feet are gradually becoming de facto Moderators? (My experience of other communities is limited, so I may not have the right impression of what a Moderator is.)

edited because I can spell impression. Really. I think.


Jessica - Apr 13, 2003 1:01:09 pm PDT #9544 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

But I think it's a touch disingenous to ignore the punitive connotations such a notice would have.

Is it necessarily more punitive than a warning posted in the thread where the offense occured? (Which is my understanding of how the warning system was originally supposed to work, though in this case it doesn't seem to have happened that way.)

Another reason I think warning should go in Press is to guarantee that the person recieving the warning sees it. If someone doesn't read this thread or check their profile email regularly, or somehow skips past the warning in the thread where the offense occured, they may not even realize that they've been Stomped. If the warning's in Press, there's really no way for them to miss it.


Burrell - Apr 13, 2003 1:03:26 pm PDT #9545 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Jess, I think that official warnings are sent by email to the person, for precisely the reason you mention.


Fay - Apr 13, 2003 1:07:59 pm PDT #9546 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Is it necessarily more punitive than a warning posted in the thread where the offense occured?

considers.

Hmm. Okay, maybe not.

Fwiw, though, I actually dip into Press pretty infrequently myself, so if y'all had been emailing a dusty email address to bitchslap me for being patronising/passive agressive/talking funny it's quite possible that I wouldn't notice it in Press for ages either.

t /guilty