Okay, um, I'm lost. Uh, I'm angry, and I'm armed, so if you two have something that you need to work out --

Mal ,'War Stories'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Daisy Jane - Mar 25, 2003 8:16:58 pm PST #8869 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Yes. Thank you Jon, Sophia, and Cindy.


Noumenon - Mar 25, 2003 10:12:36 pm PST #8870 of 10001
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

And thank you Liese for the shout-out to the midnight thread-namers what renames at midnight. Just be thankful we don't like monkeys.

Having the proposer create the ballot is good. We're lucky people have been volunteering to do it. I thought about helping Sophia out with one last night and it seemed like a lot of work.


Cindy - Mar 26, 2003 5:33:07 am PST #8871 of 10001
Nobody

Just be thankful we don't like monkeys.

Also so worth repeating. ;)


PaulJ - Mar 26, 2003 6:15:58 am PST #8872 of 10001

I have a doubt about the latest vote, specifically about this paragraph:

After a proposal, discussion and vote, further discussion on a given matter should be closed for 6 months. If this initiative passes, we agree at 3 months from the day (date) the poll closes, to take a vote of confidence on this decision (only), to see if we think 6 months is too long, too short, or just right.

So, this means that if this vote passes, further decisions made by vote will have effect for 6 months... unless 3 months after this vote we decide that the period of 6 months isn't valid. Right?

In that case, doesn't that make the effective validity of any further decisions we make by vote 3 months, instead of 6? I mean, if 3 months from now we decide that "6 months" is a too long period, is that decision retroactive?

I haven't been in the Lightbulb thread for weeks, so I don't know if the mere mention of this question has made several people reach for the razorblade (down, not across). In that case, please direct me to the adequate posts.


Jon B. - Mar 26, 2003 6:36:34 am PST #8873 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I took the "(only)" to mean that we wouldn't revisit any other decisions until six months had passed.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 26, 2003 6:41:20 am PST #8874 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Actually to be honest I hadn't thought about it. I assumed that if we decided at three months that 6 months was WAY TOO LONG that we could revisit things. However, I really stole 99% of the proposal from Cindy so maybe she can clear this up and we can clear the language up a bit. .

The reason there is a vote at three months is to make sure we aren't locked in to six months for six months if it turns out to be the wrong thing.

I thought the (only) refered to the fact that we will not be having a vote of confidence on any other vote.


Cindy - Mar 26, 2003 7:18:43 am PST #8875 of 10001
Nobody

All I meant was, at three months, we'll see how the moratorium feels, talk about it and vote whether we think it's too long, too short, or just right. If "just right" gets a majority, I would imagine things would continue on course. If a majority of us feel it's either too long, or too short, I think we'd have to decide then, how we wanted to handle it, and whether we wanted to do so only going forward or not. This really just gives us an escape clause, if six wins, and if we underestimated how long six months will feel.

Without knowing how we'll feel, it's hard to imagine the hypotheticals, and to me, it's not worth arguing the hypotheticals, either.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 26, 2003 7:27:08 am PST #8876 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Thanks Cindy. I am going to link to this post in Press.


Wolfram - Mar 26, 2003 8:10:41 am PST #8877 of 10001
Visilurking

In that case, doesn't that make the effective validity of any further decisions we make by vote 3 months, instead of 6? I mean, if 3 months from now we decide that "6 months" is a too long period, is that decision retroactive?

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. ;)


Anne W. - Mar 26, 2003 8:29:42 am PST #8878 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Still working on that list of old decisions, BTW.

Will come back when pronouns return.