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A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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Sophia Brooks - Mar 26, 2003 6:41:20 am PST #8874 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Actually to be honest I hadn't thought about it. I assumed that if we decided at three months that 6 months was WAY TOO LONG that we could revisit things. However, I really stole 99% of the proposal from Cindy so maybe she can clear this up and we can clear the language up a bit. .

The reason there is a vote at three months is to make sure we aren't locked in to six months for six months if it turns out to be the wrong thing.

I thought the (only) refered to the fact that we will not be having a vote of confidence on any other vote.


Cindy - Mar 26, 2003 7:18:43 am PST #8875 of 10001
Nobody

All I meant was, at three months, we'll see how the moratorium feels, talk about it and vote whether we think it's too long, too short, or just right. If "just right" gets a majority, I would imagine things would continue on course. If a majority of us feel it's either too long, or too short, I think we'd have to decide then, how we wanted to handle it, and whether we wanted to do so only going forward or not. This really just gives us an escape clause, if six wins, and if we underestimated how long six months will feel.

Without knowing how we'll feel, it's hard to imagine the hypotheticals, and to me, it's not worth arguing the hypotheticals, either.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 26, 2003 7:27:08 am PST #8876 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Thanks Cindy. I am going to link to this post in Press.


Wolfram - Mar 26, 2003 8:10:41 am PST #8877 of 10001
Visilurking

In that case, doesn't that make the effective validity of any further decisions we make by vote 3 months, instead of 6? I mean, if 3 months from now we decide that "6 months" is a too long period, is that decision retroactive?

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. ;)


Anne W. - Mar 26, 2003 8:29:42 am PST #8878 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Still working on that list of old decisions, BTW.

Will come back when pronouns return.


Wolfram - Mar 26, 2003 1:09:40 pm PST #8879 of 10001
Visilurking

Stompie needed in COMM stat. (whitefont emergency)


Sophia Brooks - Mar 26, 2003 2:57:08 pm PST #8880 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

You know, I was thinking that I liked the idea of a yes no ballot with a survey attached to help gauge how most people are feeling.

For example, if the current ballot passes, the next one (betsy's proposal)might be ( in very simple words)

Should the 6th month moratorium apply to decisions made prior to the official start of voting?

Yes No No pref

SURVEY

If no do you feel that there should be

No Moratorium
A shorter moratorium
A longer moratorium
A forever moratorium


Java cat - Mar 27, 2003 10:57:59 am PST #8881 of 10001
Not javachik

I'll come back and threadsuck and read any replies later, 'cause I have to work now, but I am still bothered by the issue of a vote of 3, 4, or 6, in the span of 15 or 16 hours, turning into a vote on the "one true number of 6," and the numbers 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12 - which not one person wanted - being thrown into a survey.

Am I the only one who's bothered by this?


Wolfram - Mar 27, 2003 11:24:18 am PST #8882 of 10001
Visilurking

No. It bothered me too.

But I felt the group Doblerization was way more important, and whether it was her timing or her persuasive style, Cindy pulled it off. So kudos to her.

And in truth, her proposal as a whole, written against her interests of 3 as the OTN, was pretty much fair. So even though I get your point, I'd advise not focusing on it too much. The greater good was served.


Dana - Mar 27, 2003 11:24:56 am PST #8883 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Honestly, everyone's bothered by something at this point.