Stompie needed in COMM stat. (whitefont emergency)

You know, I was thinking that I liked the idea of a yes no ballot with a survey attached to help gauge how most people are feeling.

For example, if the current ballot passes, the next one (betsy's proposal)might be ( in very simple words)

Should the 6th month moratorium apply to decisions made prior to the official start of voting?

Yes No No pref

SURVEY

If no do you feel that there should be

No Moratorium
A shorter moratorium
A longer moratorium
A forever moratorium

I'll come back and threadsuck and read any replies later, 'cause I have to work now, but I am still bothered by the issue of a vote of 3, 4, or 6, in the span of 15 or 16 hours, turning into a vote on the "one true number of 6," and the numbers 1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12 - which not one person wanted - being thrown into a survey.

Am I the only one who's bothered by this?

No. It bothered me too.

But I felt the group Doblerization was way more important, and whether it was her timing or her persuasive style, Cindy pulled it off. So kudos to her.

And in truth, her proposal as a whole, written against her interests of 3 as the OTN, was pretty much fair. So even though I get your point, I'd advise not focusing on it too much. The greater good was served.

Honestly, everyone's bothered by something at this point.

Well, Sophia proposed it, so she wrote the ballot. There were a couple of ideas floating around Light Bulb before the vote, several of them viable, but we finally decided that consensing was not the way to go and that the proposer should write a ballot and Sophia chose one.

The concept we're voting on is the same; it's just phrased differently from how it was originally intended. And to a certain extent, I suspect that phraasing is a reflection, in the people reading Light Bulb, of the fact that 6 months seemed to be a front-runner.

I can sort of see how such a system could be abused, by writing ballots that are unintelligible or severely biased. But if that ever really turned into a problem, we all could give the ballot a vote of no confidence, by refusing to vote and not making the minimum turnout.

And I think the possibility of revisting 6 (should it win) in three months is the key factor.

Also the vast numbers of non-Kafka-posting Buffistas might want some of those different numbers, and now you'll know which.

It's an imperfect solution (but the best available) to a problem that was tying us in knots. I think six is long, but I'm happy we're at a point where we can pass something.

I'm really very pro the proposer writing the ballot. S/he can listen and listen and persuade and be persuaded, but in the end, one person should write it. As long as the voting mechanism allows for a "no confidence/utter bollocks" option, it's all good.

And if the proposal is badly done and doesn't get the MVT -- whoops! Moratorium anyway. So it behooves the proposer to do a good job.