I don't give a good gorram about relevant, Wash. Or objective. And I ain't so afraid of losing something that I ain't gonna try to have it. You and I would make one beautiful baby. And I want to meet that child one day. Period.

Zoe ,'Heart Of Gold'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


John H - Mar 20, 2003 4:24:32 pm PST #8268 of 10001

John, I wasn't criticizing either of those decisions;

That wasn't a serious post, really, sorry. And it's not a big deal, but I don't like "Phoenix" simply because it's kind of a metaphor being used wrongly. There are no ashes. We weren't born out of the fiery destruction of something, we were born of the incredibly annoying unpredictably-recurring lameness of something. To me it's a greater achievement, because we could have stuck it out at WX and put up with the lameness but we didn't.


Betsy HP - Mar 20, 2003 4:24:41 pm PST #8269 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Go Nutty.


John H - Mar 20, 2003 4:26:00 pm PST #8270 of 10001

I vote lightbulbs. Lively Debate is more Buffy-related, but "waste time" is derogatory so let's not do that.


Gandalfe - Mar 20, 2003 4:26:04 pm PST #8271 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Betsy HP - Mar 20, 2003 4:26:11 pm PST #8272 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

You cannot use the new "closing discussion on an issue rule" to close off this discussion without the benefit of the new "voting procedures". It's unfair.

The reasoning of the "closing discussion on an issue" rule was that it was exhausting and annoying to constantly be forced to redebate issues.

It doesn't become any less exhausting and annoying simply because the issue wasn't formally voted on.


bicyclops - Mar 20, 2003 4:26:16 pm PST #8273 of 10001

We voted to decide things by voting, not consensus from whoever was in Beauracracy on a couple of days in the past.

That said, I'll be the third second (after Gandalfe and Noni) on the war thread.

Absolutely. Or some of us will lose our minds.

Some of us already lost our minds at the results of that last vote.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 20, 2003 4:26:19 pm PST #8274 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Before we discuss anything, there are 2 things that need to be done.

1. Open a Voting Discussion Thread.

2. Decide how long discussion are closed for (3 months, 6 months, 1 year are the proposals I've seen)

3. Which of course is going to lead to the inevitable-- how do we count that discussion.

Also, I am not sure whether this is a NEW war thread proposal, because no we actually have a war, in which case we should hear it out or a revival of the old one, which was defeated by our non-working consensus method, and therefore we can't bring it up again for an unspecified period of time.

Also, I don't THINK we have to vote to get a thread or an HTML page that lists the votes, results, and when they were so that we can refer to it if peopl emake new proposals.


Betsy HP - Mar 20, 2003 4:26:41 pm PST #8275 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Why are people so against bringing it up again if they're sure they will win?

Because I am sick and tired of the fucking endless debates.

Excuse me while I go doblerize myself.


Gandalfe - Mar 20, 2003 4:26:44 pm PST #8276 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Light bulbs, baby.


kat perez - Mar 20, 2003 4:27:15 pm PST #8277 of 10001
"We have trust issues." Mylar

Thanks, Nutty. I still vote "Lightbulb". Whip Appeal