Doesn't matter that we took him off that boat, Shepherd, it's the place he's going to live from now on.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Gandalfe - Mar 20, 2003 4:26:04 pm PST #8271 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Betsy HP - Mar 20, 2003 4:26:11 pm PST #8272 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

You cannot use the new "closing discussion on an issue rule" to close off this discussion without the benefit of the new "voting procedures". It's unfair.

The reasoning of the "closing discussion on an issue" rule was that it was exhausting and annoying to constantly be forced to redebate issues.

It doesn't become any less exhausting and annoying simply because the issue wasn't formally voted on.


bicyclops - Mar 20, 2003 4:26:16 pm PST #8273 of 10001

We voted to decide things by voting, not consensus from whoever was in Beauracracy on a couple of days in the past.

That said, I'll be the third second (after Gandalfe and Noni) on the war thread.

Absolutely. Or some of us will lose our minds.

Some of us already lost our minds at the results of that last vote.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 20, 2003 4:26:19 pm PST #8274 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Before we discuss anything, there are 2 things that need to be done.

1. Open a Voting Discussion Thread.

2. Decide how long discussion are closed for (3 months, 6 months, 1 year are the proposals I've seen)

3. Which of course is going to lead to the inevitable-- how do we count that discussion.

Also, I am not sure whether this is a NEW war thread proposal, because no we actually have a war, in which case we should hear it out or a revival of the old one, which was defeated by our non-working consensus method, and therefore we can't bring it up again for an unspecified period of time.

Also, I don't THINK we have to vote to get a thread or an HTML page that lists the votes, results, and when they were so that we can refer to it if peopl emake new proposals.


Betsy HP - Mar 20, 2003 4:26:41 pm PST #8275 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Why are people so against bringing it up again if they're sure they will win?

Because I am sick and tired of the fucking endless debates.

Excuse me while I go doblerize myself.


Gandalfe - Mar 20, 2003 4:26:44 pm PST #8276 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Light bulbs, baby.


kat perez - Mar 20, 2003 4:27:15 pm PST #8277 of 10001
"We have trust issues." Mylar

Thanks, Nutty. I still vote "Lightbulb". Whip Appeal


Katie M - Mar 20, 2003 4:28:27 pm PST #8278 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Okay! Look! It's a completely unfair ten-minute consensus on lightbulbs! We got anyone around who can make a topic?


Sophia Brooks - Mar 20, 2003 4:30:26 pm PST #8279 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

OK-- and this thread is only onpen to discuss proposals, right?

Also, as much as I care not to discuss it, I think we probably do have to do a war discussion thread vote IF we get a fourth.


Betsy HP - Mar 20, 2003 4:33:13 pm PST #8280 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

If we allow the war decision to be overturned because it doesn't fit the new rules, then does that mean that every other previous decision can be revoted?