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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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Laura - Mar 16, 2003 9:50:51 am PST #7780 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

You just lost your status as bestest secret boyfriend. I was planning on waiting for the lovely number to report on voting to moment.

46 early voters have spoken.


Jesse - Mar 16, 2003 3:28:17 pm PST #7781 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

A big huge THANKS from me to Sophia, and Jon, and Laura, and all the Sompies, and everyone else.

(Am I wrong, or does it really feel like things are smoothing out? Yay.)


John H - Mar 16, 2003 4:14:10 pm PST #7782 of 10001

does it really feel like things are smoothing out?

I really think so.

I think, to talk about method, it really helps when we stick to a particular proposal and tweak that proposal until nobody hates it.

It really helps to see an example ballot on screen, because that way anyone can grab it, cut and paste and edit, and re-post a new version and say "how's this instead?" -- it's like a piece of paper being passed around between us.

That's much better than talking in the abstract, or talking about hypothetical situations, plus it helps reduce the "didn't we already have this discussion?" feeling that you get sometimes.


DavidS - Mar 16, 2003 5:15:24 pm PST #7783 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

(Am I wrong, or does it really feel like things are smoothing out? Yay.)

I think smoothing out also.

It really helps to see an example ballot on screen, because that way anyone can grab it, cut and paste and edit, and re-post a new version and say "how's this instead?" -- it's like a piece of paper being passed around between us.

That's much better than talking in the abstract, or talking about hypothetical situations, plus it helps reduce the "didn't we already have this discussion?" feeling that you get sometimes.

Concur with this also. I think we've wrestled a workable method for us here.


Jesse - Mar 16, 2003 5:20:11 pm PST #7784 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

That said, I do want to acknowledge that this is not the perfect method for everyone, and some people will still be unsatisfied with the process. I just really hope that nearly everyone is satisfied enough with the ultimate results to live with them.


sumi - Mar 17, 2003 12:21:13 pm PST #7785 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Okay, if I vote "no" for minimum number of seconds - - why do I have to vote for a number of seconds?


Jon B. - Mar 17, 2003 12:27:43 pm PST #7786 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

So that if the "yes"'s win, you still have a voice. I suppose we could assume that if "yes" wins, all the "no"'s would vote for "1", but it seemed more fair to ask and be sure.


Burrell - Mar 17, 2003 12:29:10 pm PST #7787 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Sumi, the reason to vote for a minimum number even if you don't want to vote for seconds is so that, if it passes, you can at least participate in coming up with a number. If it doesn't pass, then the second part of the vote won't matter, and if it does pass, don't you want to help ensure that the minimum number is at least acceptable to you?


sumi - Mar 17, 2003 12:33:50 pm PST #7788 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

So, did it then not accept my entire ballot so I have to go back and vote for everything again?


sumi - Mar 17, 2003 12:34:52 pm PST #7789 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Also, I'd be happier with progressive voting.

Votes for issue 1. New ballot for issue 2 and so on.