Hmmmmmmm . . . . He seemed to be a fairly reasonable person in this incarnation - never ran into him earlier, of course. It showed a lot of class to just say, "Busted!" and walk away from it, tho.
Wait a minute - he's really Steve Amasfer, isn't he?
This is so nice. Having everyone together for my birthday. Of course, you could smash in all my toes with a hammer and it will still be the bestest Buffy Birthday Bash in a big long while.
Buffy ,'Potential'
Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
Gandalfe - Mar 14, 2003 10:50:25 pm PST #7646 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.
DavidS - Mar 14, 2003 10:56:43 pm PST #7647 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
He seemed to be a fairly reasonable person in this incarnation
He was. In this incarnation.
When he was directly asked, and thought he'd be kicked out anyway, he categorically denied it with bluster and heated commentary.
But this is what he did the first time.
It makes me feel some rue. Like...we did the best we could and gave him chances. It's his fuck-up, but it doesn't make me feel good. Like to handle it even better next time.
John H - Mar 14, 2003 11:18:04 pm PST #7648 of 10001
When he was directly asked, and thought he'd be kicked out anyway, he categorically denied it with bluster and heated commentary.
I don't get the "and thought he'd be kicked out anyway" part of that.
Deena - Mar 14, 2003 11:26:41 pm PST #7649 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara
John, after it was suggested that you e-mail him, and then you came back and asked what to do if you got no clear response, he came in to this thread with a lot of bluster -- saying he thought he was going to be kicked out because he had offended a stompy, but that he wanted to state anyway that he was not this person. I'm paraphrasing madly, but, that's the gist, I think.
Rebecca Lizard - Mar 14, 2003 11:33:16 pm PST #7650 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket
Be he's gone. And he's not coming back.
(If he comes back, of course, I'll lose any tiny shred of respect I had for him, and will probably throw large paragraphs at his head. But he's not. I believe that.)
And it's possible (probable, I think, from what I know of his personality; but I don't know, of course) that he is reading this right now.
So I say, with greatest respect to you: maybe we could let go of talking about the specifics of the mieskie/Schmoker/Anathema situation. We do have some things to say about trolls, I think, most of which I'll want to talk about too, in the morning, but retreading the details of this particular over-now situation is... not going to accomplish anything. I think. I think.
Deena - Mar 14, 2003 11:34:32 pm PST #7651 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara
Sorry, I was just trying to clarify my earlier, ill-advised post.
DavidS - Mar 14, 2003 11:35:57 pm PST #7652 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
but retreading the details of this particular over-now situation is... not going to accomplish anything.
Not in relation to this particular incident. But I did have issues with how the original suspension happened. I think it could have been more fair, a more measured response.
John H - Mar 14, 2003 11:38:24 pm PST #7653 of 10001
he thought he was going to be kicked out because he had offended a stompy, but that he wanted to state anyway that he was not this person
OK, fair enough. But if he really thought he was going to be kicked out anyway, why not tell the truth? The two things kind of contradict each other.
...and this is why miss Lizard is right.
Allyson - Mar 14, 2003 11:44:57 pm PST #7654 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Just want to say, RL, I think you handled this very poorly. In the future, if you are privvy to backchannel information, please keep it to yourself unless death is imminent.
victor infante - Mar 15, 2003 3:03:13 am PST #7655 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Not in relation to this particular incident. But I did have issues with how the original suspension happened. I think it could have been more fair, a more measured response.
As did I, but I do think we can learn from the situation. One thing we did right, at least in this most recent instance, was to approach him directly and ask to work with him to a solution. It was his choice to take "total exile." I personally feel he could be invited back in two months--the time of his original, never-fulfilled suspension--but we have no precedent to base that decision on, and it probably would have had to come to the board. I'm not sure how that would have worked.
I think, at the end of the day, it's best that we remember that we're dealing with human beings. Sometimes obnoxious human beings, but whenn at all possible, it's best to deal with people gently.