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A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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Susan W. - Mar 12, 2003 9:39:37 am PST #7256 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Jon, would we be doing that adjustment for extremes, like in figure skating?

t pedant Gymnastics and diving drop the high and low score--figure skating uses the marks as placeholders to rank the skaters, so that the winner isn't the skater with the highest point total, but the one who gets the majority of first-place rankings from the judges. Until this year, all the marks counted, but now they've got the stupid anonymous system where a computer randomly selects which judges' marks will count. The I-D-O-T idiot in charge of the ISU, who comes from the speedskating side of the sport and doesn't know from figure skating really, wants to change the scoring system even further, rather than something logical like, oh, I dunno, CRACKING DOWN ON CORRUPT JUDGES AND FEDERATIONS. t /pedant


Hil R. - Mar 12, 2003 9:45:53 am PST #7257 of 10001
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t natter Susan, if you're interested, Math Horizons (a math magazine for undergrads) had an article about figure skating judging this month. t /natter


P.M. Marc - Mar 12, 2003 10:09:17 am PST #7258 of 10001
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figure skating uses the marks as placeholders to rank the skaters, so that the winner isn't the skater with the highest point total, but the one who gets the majority of first-place rankings from the judges.

Yeah, but I thought the marks were determined using standard mean calculations, throwing out the (say) 4.8 and the 6. Though it's been years since I bothered to watch, and I'm just remembering being really confused when the high and low would get crossed out on my TV screen as a kid.


Susan W. - Mar 12, 2003 10:12:50 am PST #7259 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I think some professional competitions do it that way. Also, I can't speak for how long Olympic-eligible has used the present system. I've been a serious fan since the mid 90's, so that's all I'm absolutely sure of.


Jon B. - Mar 12, 2003 10:20:35 am PST #7260 of 10001
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Susan -- That anonymous system you described boggles me. I am boggled. Shake me up and look for words.

I tend to agree with Billytea (doin' the secret actuary handshake). I think we should be as inclusive as possible, so I'd prefer 2-100 over 10-65.


Jesse - Mar 12, 2003 10:23:12 am PST #7261 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

As long as every one understands that FIFTY IS THE CORRECT ANSWER, I don't care what the range is for MVT voting.


Susan W. - Mar 12, 2003 10:25:35 am PST #7262 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

That anonymous system you described boggles me. I am boggled. Shake me up and look for words.

Most fans are boggled, and while the skaters are trying to be diplomatic, we think they are, too. There's even going to be an official No Secret Judging protest at Worlds at the end of the month, with some pretty savvy PR types from the fandom shepherding it.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 12, 2003 10:26:39 am PST #7263 of 10001
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It is not at all surprising to me that I agree with Jesse!


Laura - Mar 12, 2003 10:27:12 am PST #7264 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

2-100 makes more sense to me too.


Jesse - Mar 12, 2003 10:27:51 am PST #7265 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Me and you, Sophia. Co-Rulers of All Buffistadom. It could work!