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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Jon B. - Mar 04, 2003 7:48:14 pm PST #6853 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

which have been discussed at length in the Bureaucracy thread

I absolutely do not want to say this. One of the reasons I put my clarifications in there was so that folks who have been scared away from this thread would get the gist of the implications of each choice.


Burrell - Mar 04, 2003 7:53:57 pm PST #6854 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Choice 1 means that in the rare cases where a ballot question has more than two choices, there will need to be runoff ballots, or you will have to vote preferentially

I would say "there may need to be" not "there will need to be." We can't assume that there will never ever be a 50%+1 majority with 3+ options.

Also, and I know I keep asking the same question, but it keeps not being answered: Is this a new vote or a poll of our views on the old vote?


Sophia Brooks - Mar 04, 2003 7:58:58 pm PST #6855 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Burrell:

I thought it was going to be a poll. but ir looks like a re-vote.


Jon B. - Mar 04, 2003 8:00:44 pm PST #6856 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I would call it a new vote, since I think we can't force people to think of it only as a poll of our previous view.


Burrell - Mar 04, 2003 8:04:28 pm PST #6857 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Okay so it's a vote.

So this does officially mean that we have dumped our 4th measure down the toilet already. Not that I mind all that much, seeing as I voted against it, but if I had been all for the process, I'd be pissed right now.


Denise - Mar 04, 2003 8:08:35 pm PST #6858 of 10001

So this does officially mean that we have dumped our 4th measure down the toilet already. Not that I mind all that much, seeing as I voted against it, but if I had been all for the process, I'd be pissed right now.

Well, I think we can sort of get around that. We're not really voting on a new issue. We're re-voting because we're unclear as to what the answer really was in the first vote.


DavidS - Mar 04, 2003 8:09:59 pm PST #6859 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

but if I had been all for the process, I'd be pissed right now.

I hope there is some tolerance for the notion that the process is not yet in place and we're fumbling our way toward it.

I'm ready to go with Jon's ballot as amended by Cindy's intro.

My brain has now reached its saturation point on this subject and is vigorously rejecting any new input on the matter.


§ ita § - Mar 04, 2003 8:13:04 pm PST #6860 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

We haven't finished the first ballot yet. We finish that, and move on with ramifications of it to new and wondrous votes.


DavidS - Mar 04, 2003 8:21:18 pm PST #6861 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

We haven't finished the first ballot yet. We finish that, and move on with ramifications of it to new and wondrous votes.

whimpers okay


Jon B. - Mar 04, 2003 8:23:04 pm PST #6862 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Given the number of folks who have said they're OK with the wording as is, I'm going to leave the ballot as is. Except that, as an olive branch to those who think the descriptions are leading, I will change "there will need to be runoff ballots" to "there may need to be runoff ballots", and "a small percentage of the total votes" to "a fraction of the total votes."

I hope this is a good compromise. I'll be back in 45 minutes after I finish watching... uhhh... something I just downloaded.