... with our hands are tied behind our backs, ...
delete "are"
You turned evil a lot faster than I thought you would.
Angel ,'Just Rewards (2)'
Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
Java cat - Mar 04, 2003 9:15:16 pm PST #6863 of 10001
Not javachik
Elena - Mar 04, 2003 9:20:29 pm PST #6864 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.
Jon B. "Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier" Mar 4, 2003 9:10:23 pm EST
I like this, with Jon's suggested wording change. (edit) Err, and what Java said.
I've actually gotten a bit confused as to what we're trying to accomplish. I was hoping for a more balanced view of what Buffistas want, and also less talking. I think that once the voting procedure has been ironed out maybe this will happen.
Jon B. - Mar 04, 2003 9:23:13 pm PST #6865 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Well, that was a 45 minutes I don't need to "salvage."
Good catch Java.
I think that once the voting procedure has been ironed out maybe this will happen.
And I still really believe that this will be the case.
Anathema - Mar 04, 2003 9:37:14 pm PST #6866 of 10001
Jonathan Will Always Be My Hero
I.... Have... No... Brain.
Neither do any of us, Bets. It's a requisite for Bureaucracy. Have to check your brain at the door.
Elena - Mar 04, 2003 9:40:40 pm PST #6867 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.
Comments like that aren't helping. I'm trying to read and understand the posts here in order to make an informed decision. I don't think that's deserving of mockery.
Anathema - Mar 04, 2003 9:44:32 pm PST #6868 of 10001
Jonathan Will Always Be My Hero
I've been right here trying to help, too, Elena. Just having a sense of humor about our on and on. Sorry if it bothered you.
Jon B. - Mar 04, 2003 9:48:31 pm PST #6869 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Soooo..... Unless anyone has objections, I'll post to press at midnight with the text of the ballot question and the link the the voting page....
Elena - Mar 04, 2003 9:48:44 pm PST #6870 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.
Implying that people need to be brainless to participate in this thread isn't particularly funny to me. So, yes, your comment did bother me. Thank you for your apology.
Allyson - Mar 04, 2003 10:15:43 pm PST #6871 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I've read this thread, and I still don't understand the implications of the vote.
I think I'll go to bed.
billytea - Mar 04, 2003 10:34:41 pm PST #6872 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
Well. It's been a fair while since I posted here. I don't have much to say, and I hope what I do have won't make anything worse.
So, look, reason I stepped out was because I was, like many people, feeling pretty upset. I felt (right or wrong) that the fact the discussion turned unpleasant was being blamed solely on the people in favour of preferential voting. I found this doubly upsetting because the main reason I was arguing for it was because I believe it to be the fairest practical method, the one closest to our previous consensus model and the one most likely to help forestall such unpleasantness in the future. Instead, I felt like I was being accused (not personally, as part of the pro-pref group) of pretty much courting or at least being insensitive to such unpleasantness. (And of being a Vulcan. I minded that less before Enterprise.)
Nothing like real life to provide some new perspective on things. So I felt I needed to give voice to the above rather than let it fester; but I also want to say that I know no one else intended any offence, and the discussion caused hurt and frayed tempers all over. I would also like to apologise for any part I played in making anyone else feel upset, uncomfortable or alienated.
Signed,
billytea (Not a Vulcan.)