Oh my Gosh, ita.
Hmmm. Are we only polling the yes votes?
No. And yes. It's always sudden.
Tara ,'Storyteller'
Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
Sophia Brooks - Mar 04, 2003 3:08:28 pm PST #6794 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
Connie Neil - Mar 04, 2003 3:09:16 pm PST #6795 of 10001
brillig
I like Sophia's ballot.
Nutty - Mar 04, 2003 3:10:13 pm PST #6796 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Yay, Sophia, for climbing through the last 500 posts with the thing we were debating still intact! Is this the final text of the ballot question?
Not that I ever saw any ambiguity in what "simple majority" means (I take it to mean 50%+), but I did look it up in the dictionary and I can see where the ambiguity comes from. I just don't need to think very hard before I vote. Hopefully, that's the same for other people too.
Sean K - Mar 04, 2003 3:10:39 pm PST #6797 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Bureaucracy 2: It's The New Natter
Nah, COMM is the new Natter, my current natter here notwithstanding.
Personally, I think we should go with Bureaucracy 2: Dada as government.
Lyra Jane - Mar 04, 2003 3:13:43 pm PST #6798 of 10001
Up with the sun
The thing is, the ballot didn't ask about "50%+1" vs. plurality. It asked about a supermajority, such as 60% vs. "a majority." I probably assumed that if there were 3+ choices, the one with the most votes would win, but I don't think it's a question voters necssarily asked themselves -- I know I didn't.
Jon B. - Mar 04, 2003 3:13:44 pm PST #6799 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Choice 1: An option which recieves more than 50 % of the vote wins.
Are we ignoring questions with more three or more options for now and addressing that issue later? Because this could easily be interpreted to mean that if there are five options and nothing gets 50%, then the vote fails and we can't talk about the issue for x months.
Sophia Brooks - Mar 04, 2003 3:14:05 pm PST #6800 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
John--
I think whether we remind people about the more than three option depends on if this is a poll to see what we meant at the time, open only to the people who voted , or a re-vote which is open to everyone. If it is a re-vote, we have to be very specific about implications.
John H - Mar 04, 2003 3:14:52 pm PST #6801 of 10001
I don't think we can just poll the yes-voters.
Perhaps this vote is really a runoff for the question?
Supermajority has been defeated, but it turns out we didn't all mean the same thing when we voted for "simple majority".
What do you think is the best majority system: (etc)
And on that note, I'm really going. I'm going to work, and if you see me back here any time in the next eight hours, kick my ass, I really mean it. Email me if you need me.
Connie Neil - Mar 04, 2003 3:15:33 pm PST #6802 of 10001
brillig
Hail Eris, Sean.
Wolfram - Mar 04, 2003 3:15:44 pm PST #6803 of 10001
Visilurking
Okay, did anyone read my previous post? The vote as proposed alienates all th buffistas who voted for supermajority. I know that we want to determine what was meant by the voters, but let's open the poll up to all buffistas and start fresh. Now that we've ruled out supermajority - what do buffistas want as a majority?
What do you think a "simple majority" means and how would you like it applied to determine future votes?
Choice 1: An option which recieves more than 50% of the vote wins.
Choice 2: Whichever option has the most votes wins