Oh, I get it. You just don't like who did the rescuing, that's all. Wishin' I was your boyfriend what's-his-height. Oh wait, he's run off.

Spike ,'Potential'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Sean K - Mar 04, 2003 3:10:39 pm PST #6797 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Bureaucracy 2: It's The New Natter

Nah, COMM is the new Natter, my current natter here notwithstanding.

Personally, I think we should go with Bureaucracy 2: Dada as government.


Lyra Jane - Mar 04, 2003 3:13:43 pm PST #6798 of 10001
Up with the sun

The thing is, the ballot didn't ask about "50%+1" vs. plurality. It asked about a supermajority, such as 60% vs. "a majority." I probably assumed that if there were 3+ choices, the one with the most votes would win, but I don't think it's a question voters necssarily asked themselves -- I know I didn't.


Jon B. - Mar 04, 2003 3:13:44 pm PST #6799 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Choice 1: An option which recieves more than 50 % of the vote wins.

Are we ignoring questions with more three or more options for now and addressing that issue later? Because this could easily be interpreted to mean that if there are five options and nothing gets 50%, then the vote fails and we can't talk about the issue for x months.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 04, 2003 3:14:05 pm PST #6800 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

John--

I think whether we remind people about the more than three option depends on if this is a poll to see what we meant at the time, open only to the people who voted , or a re-vote which is open to everyone. If it is a re-vote, we have to be very specific about implications.


John H - Mar 04, 2003 3:14:52 pm PST #6801 of 10001

I don't think we can just poll the yes-voters.

Perhaps this vote is really a runoff for the question?

Supermajority has been defeated, but it turns out we didn't all mean the same thing when we voted for "simple majority".

What do you think is the best majority system: (etc)

And on that note, I'm really going. I'm going to work, and if you see me back here any time in the next eight hours, kick my ass, I really mean it. Email me if you need me.


Connie Neil - Mar 04, 2003 3:15:33 pm PST #6802 of 10001
brillig

Hail Eris, Sean.


Wolfram - Mar 04, 2003 3:15:44 pm PST #6803 of 10001
Visilurking

Okay, did anyone read my previous post? The vote as proposed alienates all th buffistas who voted for supermajority. I know that we want to determine what was meant by the voters, but let's open the poll up to all buffistas and start fresh. Now that we've ruled out supermajority - what do buffistas want as a majority?

What do you think a "simple majority" means and how would you like it applied to determine future votes?

Choice 1: An option which recieves more than 50% of the vote wins.

Choice 2: Whichever option has the most votes wins


Sophia Brooks - Mar 04, 2003 3:16:24 pm PST #6804 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Are we ignoring questions with more three or more options for now and addrressing that issue later? Because this could easily be interpreted to mean that if there are five options and nothing gets 50%, then the vote fails and we can't talk about the issue for x months.

Again, is this a re-vote or a poll to see what people meant at the time? If people can't change their minds (on the honors system), then we don't really need to give them more information. If it is a re-vote, I think we get back into the preferential vs. runoff thing which will have us going in circles for awhile again.


Jon B. - Mar 04, 2003 3:19:00 pm PST #6805 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I think we get back into the preferential vs. runoff thing which will have us going in circles for awhile again.

Not at all. We don't need to decide preferential vs. runoff at this point. I just think your wording may make it appear that there will be no runoffs or preferential balloting or any other winnowing-down-of-the-options system. I read it and think that if no choice gets 50%, the whole question fails.


Jesse - Mar 04, 2003 3:19:39 pm PST #6806 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Email me if you need me.

Just FYI, John, your email isn't in your profile.