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A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
Why would you abstain instead of voting "no"?
You might if abstains count towards the minimum voter turnout. You might think an issue is important enough to be decided, even though you, yourself, can't decide. This is another reason why it makes no sense (to me) for abstains to count towards the number needed for a majority.
If abstentions aren't counted as votes, then why are they even on the ballot?
Reread my first two sentences above, Jess.
If abstentions aren't counted as votes, then why are they even on the ballot?
MVT.
So we have many abstaining issues...
Does an abstain count toward a minimum number of voters? My gut says no. Abstaining to me ( and dictionary .com) means 1. To refrain from something by one's own choice: abstain from traditional political rhetoric. See Synonyms at refrain1. 2. To refrain from voting: Forty senators voted in favor of the bill, 45 voted against it, and 15 abstained.
Maybe we need to make an option of:
"Thinks the item needs further discussion" or "Thinks item should be decided, but doesn't like the options?
Does abstain count toward a majority? Also, I think no. Becuase abstaining is not voting.
And most importantly, we have to agree on what abstain means.
I think abstaining was only on the ballot as a mistake. I think it was included becuase there were multiple issues and some people might not care for all of them.
I voted for voting and I'm pretty much on the verge of swearing off any participation in future votes because I am sick to death of this thread and all the debate. I don't like it and I don't want to read it. But I feel like I'm supposed to in order to be a "good community member" or whatever.
Me too.
Honestly, I'd recommend TAKING A WEEK OFF from both discussions and voting. It's the immediate leap to MORE VOTES!!! that is pushing my buttons. Can't we just let things lie for a week and then move on to the next voting issue?
Does an abstain count toward a minimum number of voters? My gut says no.
This was one of the questions proposed for the second ballot, upthread.
Even I'm getting the headspins and the déjà vu now...
How about we deal with the MVT question first?
We've got two proposals: a 10-65 deathmatch, though some are arguing to tweak the numbers a little, and a 10,20,30,40,50,60 preferential vote.
This was one of the questions proposed for the second ballot, upthread.
I know. I am just discussing.
I am not even sure if we can deal with the whole ballot right now.
Obviously we are all working from different definitions of abstain.