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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Typo Boy - Feb 27, 2003 4:32:37 pm PST #5909 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

OK shutting up now.


Wolfram - Feb 27, 2003 4:32:47 pm PST #5910 of 10001
Visilurking

I was under the impression that thread names were seperate from this process.

Thread names - yes New threads - no


MayaP - Feb 27, 2003 4:35:31 pm PST #5911 of 10001

Yet another question: if voting is approved, will everything need to go to formal vote? It seems to me that there's something of a hierarchy of "importance" of issues to the community at large, such as, from least to most (is "thread" the right way to describe different folders / conferences / what have you? I'm blanking on what is correct)

Blocking obvious spammers

Changing the blurbs describing a thread

Naming a thread

Changing some policy on an existing thread (ie spoilers)

Creating a new thread

Banning a poster

I'm sure that I'm overlooking some issues that come up; I haven't read Bureaucracy for very long! Anyhow, maybe there should be some consideration (assuming voting passes) of what needs to be voted on, and what can be handled informally, by some consensus-like mechanism? Do you/we really need four days of discussion and three of voting the change the blurb on the front page when "Buffy" ends? Do you even need that much formality for naming Natter 27?

(hmm.. looks like unlurking is adictive.)


Hil R. - Feb 27, 2003 4:36:11 pm PST #5912 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Thread names - yes New threads - no

But wasn't jengod's example, which was just cited as a reason why preference voting would be necessary, thread names?

(OK, looking back, I see that he could have been refering to the quorum number thing. But really, there is no reason to decide that now, since we don't know how the vote went.)


Hil R. - Feb 27, 2003 4:37:28 pm PST #5913 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

if voting is approved, will everything need to go to formal vote?

The ballot lists things that would be exceptions, including blocking obvious trolls and thread naming.


Wolfram - Feb 27, 2003 4:56:35 pm PST #5914 of 10001
Visilurking

On the subject of abstension votes, I think we should include more specific options for people who aren't firmly yays or nays.

1) emphatically yes; 2) yes; 3) eh; 4) no; 5) no fuckin' way; 6) abstain; 7) don't give a rat's ass; 8) monkey; 9) what the hell's a quorum? 10) LOL

Please check all that apply.


billytea - Feb 27, 2003 4:59:01 pm PST #5915 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

1) emphatically yes; 2) yes; 3) eh; 4) no; 5) no fuckin' way; 6) abstain; 7) don't give a rat's ass; 8) monkey; 9) what the hell's a quorum? 10) LOL

t laughing like a drain

Vote early; vote often. Vote monkey.


§ ita § - Feb 27, 2003 5:00:41 pm PST #5916 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Monkey stuffers.

Tangentially, but on the topic of poor ballot design, I discovered that my company gave out a culture satisfaction test (easy on the yoghurt jokes, folks) where you could rate statements about the company from 1 to 5. 5 was "strongly agree" and 1 was "slightly agree".

There's representation for you.


Kristen - Feb 27, 2003 5:02:57 pm PST #5917 of 10001

if I were coming in to vote now, I'd be more tempted to vote against further voting than I would have been yesterday.

You read my mind. Plus it would kind of make me want to go back and change my vote.


Laura - Feb 27, 2003 5:10:28 pm PST #5918 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

So you managed to put another 150 posts here while I did away from computer stuff! Do I need to threadsuck the whole thing, or can someone summarize what we are deciding.

As the Palm Beach County Florida Buffista I declare myself resident expert on poor ballot design.