if I were coming in to vote now, I'd be more tempted to vote against further voting than I would have been yesterday.

You read my mind. Plus it would kind of make me want to go back and change my vote.

So you managed to put another 150 posts here while I did away from computer stuff! Do I need to threadsuck the whole thing, or can someone summarize what we are deciding.

As the Palm Beach County Florida Buffista I declare myself resident expert on poor ballot design.

Laura-- don't read it.

A long discussion about different methods of voting (borda, Australian, Condorcet) which made people want not to vote anymore.

Tangentially, but on the topic of poor ballot design, I discovered that my company gave out a culture satisfaction test (easy on the yoghurt jokes, folks) where you could rate statements about the company from 1 to 5. 5 was "strongly agree" and 1 was "slightly agree".

There's representation for you.

Don't get me started on the university's class rating system. Every single question is a superlative like "I had a strong desire to take this course" and "I learned a substantial amount of material" and "class discussion was by far the best part of this course, in fact, it was the best part of my day" and "I think this professor loves me and would like to have a million of my babies and name them all after me" and you can strongly agree, agree, disagree, strongly disagree or be neutral.

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Wroddy McFuck.

I think that may be the best Wrod ever.

Like Roddy McD, no?

Yes, exactly like Roddy McD.

Hey, I closed my <font="-2"> tag with a /font> (I left off the less-than carat on the close tag). Every time I went back in and added the less-than tag and then submitted it, it still showed up as a dropped tag and the lt tag I put in disappeared.

I blame the maths.

Gar - I'm sorry. I knew you weren't literally saying or implying I conned anyone, and that was completely separate (hence the paragraph break) from the "making me sick part". I'm sorry if I made it seem like that post upset me. What's upsetting me is that what is that a poll poll is being made to look complicated because people are arguing hypotheticals that haven't been and can't be brought to the table unless we know if we're going to continue to poll people.

We have to keep in mind that all this is just to manage administrivia. That's it.

Of course anyone will always be free to propose anything - that includes however ballots are ranked, laid-out, worded, and any minimums to be imposed in the future, etc. But this whole thing has jumped the gun.

But what we're also going to have to sort out is, what if 100 people don't vote?

John -

from John H "Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier" Feb 27, 2003 5:28:45 pm EST

The intial ballot included questions that, if voted down (item 2) and pass (item 3) (and deer loward, that's how I voted and I'm so very glad right now on that) will render this whole conversation unnecessary. If that's the case, all the convo will have accomplished is bringing about a lot of frustration, and the risk of scaring people off of choosing to use a polling method that takes place on a form, rather than gleeming the consensus-that-wasn't from a thread. That's all that many (maybe most) of us want - to not guess any longer at whether or not the TV Thread was really shot down, or if the anti-proliferation folks just spoke last.

The points you made in the above cited post will be relevant if number 2 passes and/or number 3 doesn't. But they're not now. By the way, welcome back, I've missed you.

For the record, this is what I had in mind when I mentioned having a moratorium on the convo after the polls were open.

Plus it would kind of make me want to go back and change my vote.

Wroddy McFuck.

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Thanks Sophia. I had thought we wouldn't have a lot to discuss until the voting was finished so I was surprised to see so many posts. And now I added to the count too! BWAHAHAHA

My gut is that a little moratorium on the subject until the vote is done would be healthy.

We'll have plenty to discuss after the vote is done anyway.