I'm with Dana in the "I'm out of town now, why?"

- First, I oppose 3/4 day span. I will always be out of town for a full week, once a month, every month. But that's just me. If the consensus is consensed, I'll go with the flow.

- Second, I'm very sorry that we are in this discussion, that people have serious problems with the way things have run in the past, and that we're formalizing. I had felt very pleased with the consensus (consensi?) we'd appeared to have come to in the past, and I apologize personally to those who felt inadequately represented in the past, or who were unhappy with the decisions that were put in place. I'm really disappointed that consensus didn't work. I'm disappointed that consensus cannot continue to work.

- Lastly, good luck, and will someone please email me at my profile addy when a vote is being taken, because I find it unlikely that I will be able to keep up with this debate from the road.

We will send an email to votes@buffistas.org, which will forward to jengod, who will tally them.

We will send an email to votes@buffistas.org, which will forward to jengod, who will tally them.

Right, I got that. What I was asking was if we're setting up a web page like the one you reach if you click email admins. It sounds like not, but I wanted to check.

At this point, no. We're just sending regular old emails. And I don't know if jen's around, or how much she cares about how we format these emails.

Liese, I'm sorry about the week thing and your travel schedule. But you're likely to be around for most things, right? I mean, when we talk about seven days, they can start on any day of the week. So, that's something?

Right, I just feel that a week is a fairly reasonable amount of time that someone would be out of the conversation. (Me, me, me) But yes, if it works out that way, I'll participate when possible. Like now.

I'm about to post and run, but I was just reading the old TT bureaucracy to get a feel for how we used to do things, before there were any moderators of our own. It seemed okay.

My humorous observation was, we were concerned about two things 1) would we be able to afford our own board? and 2) we were afraid we wouldn't have any new people once we were out in the wide web, and no longer getting promotion from being beside Joyce's articles.

Heh.

Classic. We even got new people all hidden away at WX!

But I don't think you can understate the difference between being under the umbrella of TT, and having to follow their rules, and making up all the rules ourselves. It's like we're in our first apartment, you know?

Liese - Jon also mentioned business trips and there was positive response to a an absentee ballot idea.

My own problem with the consensus method was just that I don't think we always reached it, it just appeared as if we did, because whomever spoke last seemed to gain the most momentum. This may not get any more formal than voting on things. It may not even get that far if people vote against voting - which is an option.

My two cents about the ballot is that it should be very simple -- something with just the item number and the yes or no, so like...

Item 1: no

Item 2: no

Item 3: no

Item 4: no.

When the motion is posted in press, it should contain a sample of what kind of email to send. Since jengod is counting this time, jengod, do you have a preference for how people send you their votes?

Honestly, Cindy, I should just shup up and let you post for me all the time.

I dunno, Jesse. I'm sitting here reading Liese's post and reminding myself that when I first found the Buffistas (at WXing no less) that I vowed I'd just stay in the topic threads. Liese, that's not a slap at you, either. It's a I-hate-politics-so-what-am-I-doing kick in my own pants. I want to wave a magic wand and give each Buffista his or her own private version of their favorite things about the Buffistas.